Housing

[EaMett]

This is quit possible the dumbest thing I have ever heard in all my 15 years of MMO's (Warcraft, Star Wars, and now FF14) Housing has nothing to do with PvP in anyway!!! Its a quality of life mechanic designed to enhance your endgame experience!
If it WAS a pvp mechanic there would be some kind of scoreboard or ladder that you could see (like they implemented in Ishgard restoration because add PvP to CRAFTING)
You are so incredible not aware of even the simplest of game mechanics that you resort to the lowest grade of proverbial wisdom to try and justify your point!!
"Comparing Apples to oranges" really???? Thats what you have to say!!? Followed by completely misinterpreting the meaning of the term PvP = (Player versus player)
The houses dont compete in score, the houses dont magically stand up and fight one another, the houses dont get anyform of achievement or titel that would otherwise serve as a "badge" to showoff to other players. Seriously sir do some research before you spout random scentences that are completely false!

need more convincing?

If housing is indeed intended as PvP... why can you set your house to restricted access, disallowing anyone else from entering???
The whole point of anything pvp in anygame EVER = Titles, trophies, badghes, gear, mounts, ladder boards etc. If housing WAS intended as PvP there would be a score attached to your house, there would be a message score card outside your house so people could see your tally, there would be a ladder board where people can see the highest scoring houses + their location so people can come gawk and awe at your "magnificence", and you certainly would NOT be given the opportunity to restrict acces or hide your score card!!

I simple cannot express how absolutely appauled I am to see comments like this be freely posteable... at least on wikipedia i can take false information down!

Wow, call me out for "misinterpreting pvp" then spouting a bunch of nonsense that has nothing to do with PVP. And I'm supposedly the dumb one....

Sorry to burst your 15 years of mmo bubble that clearly mean absolutely nothing, but lets curb that attitude of yours.

PvP is player versus player. At it's core you compete against other players for a limited ressource. Whether that be a point system for a ranking (the simplest of which would be ending as a winner), or it could be the right to access or continue using an area, or to keep playing in said area, etc.. or, what else would be a good example.... OH YEAH, HOUSING IN FF14 WHERE PLAYERS COMPETE AGAINST OTHER PLAYERS TO ENTER THE RANKING OF WHO OWNS A HOUSE VS WHO DOESN'T... Damn why didn't I think of that earlier /s. If I were smart I would even say that houses are a pvp reward and an achievement badge in their own right, because you know, that would circle back into housing being a limited ressource, but alas, what do I know? I mean it's not like the devs have mentioned this exact thing in the past as the reason for their design choices /s. Point made?

What you do with your house (restrict or not) has nothing to do with it, houses competing in scores? What are you talking about? You're conflating game mechanics with game rewards.

A wise person once said something that I think you should reflect on :

I simply cannot express how absolutely appalled I am to see comments like this be freely posteable... at least on wikipedia i can take false information down!

[LolitaBansheeMeru]

Come to think of it I haven't even seen a small for sell and I get on at midnight during the day noonish lol

[spf1200]

Ya housing in this game kinda sucks. In other news water is wet, ice is cold, and the sky is blue

[FirstnameLastname]

All those armchair developers with their "I know what the system needs" kinda garbage. Ugh.

[Aellae]

Yes, housing is not ideal.

Though if you really want a specific sized house, it's not that difficult to get. Odin is quite populated, and I've seen plenty medium houses and at least 2 mansions becoming free in like 2 weeks of scouting the market. There were also plenty of smalls that had no one standing at the placard for hours. Yes, it requires dedication and patience. And again, it's definitely not a good system and leaves much to be desired. But it's also not impossible.

(That being said, mansions are awful. Too much space with too little slots. But that's imo.)

[Gula]

I am entirely for a mostly M/L ward with minimum S. Ishgard is all about grandiose and staggering architecture, I could easily see a ward there in which cottages are in short supply. And given how badly people want Ishgard housing, it would be a healthy gil sink.

[Cirque-it]

I am entirely for a mostly M/L ward with minimum S. Ishgard is all about grandiose and staggering architecture, I could easily see a ward there in which cottages are in short supply. And given how badly people want Ishgard housing, it would be a healthy gil sink.

Thank you! finally someone who posts with a solution as opposed to only suggesting problems

[Gula]

Thank you! finally someone who posts with a solution as opposed to only suggesting problems

I made a thread on it last year, it died and oh my just a few more days till an actual year has passed- but I still think it would be healthy for the community as well as the economy. More than 100 people can own larges, gil can be used as opposed to turning into Gaia Online's market and I could very well see players coming to visit, thus creating a lively zone instead of a ghost town. When people tour interesting houses, they go for Larges and Mediums first.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...uarter-Housing

[Eldevern]

Considering the MMORPGs I've played, some seem to overestimate a lot, but really really a lot, the "show off" effect of housing. Many people just want their own place for some kind of QoL or RP. It is not a tour to vist houses of stars and people in California. They really need to get ride on this idea, it's a virtual world where there isn't or really a tiny (less than the mansions numbers in one server) of stars among players (or players know as if they were stars). FFXIV is not some kind of E-Sport game. It's a RPG, not a Hack'n'Slash, not a Battleroyal, neither a MMOFPS.

When there is a player we feel we get along with, we will probably visit his house, but we will never visit all mansions in all wards of the whole server. I owned two mansions for around more or less one year and a half when there were less wards. It was less than one visit a week despite the fact the two mansions were full finished. And I was actively gardening. The wards were already mostly ghost towns at the end of ARR except some places with really big FCs. And with less wards, it was easier to wander.

And the most comon reason to receive a visitor was... they were looking for ideas for their own house.

[Gula]

Considering the MMORPGs I've played, some seem to overestimate a lot, but really really a lot, the "show off" effect of housing. Many people just want their own place for some kind of QoL or RP. It is not a tour to vist houses of stars and people in California. They really need to get ride on this idea, it's a virtual world where there isn't or really a tiny (less than the mansions numbers in one server) of stars among players (or players know as if they were stars). FFXIV is not some kind of E-Sport game. It's a RPG, not a Hack'n'Slash, not a Battleroyal, neither a MMOFPS.

When there is a player we feel we get along with, we will probably visit his house, but we will never visit all mansions in all wards of the whole server. I owned two mansions for around more or less one year and a half when there were less wards. It was less than one visit a week despite the fact the two mansions were full finished. And I was actively gardening. The wards were already mostly ghost towns at the end of ARR except some places with really big FCs. And with less wards, it was easier to wander.

And the most comon reason to receive a visitor was... they were looking for ideas for their own house.

I think you're projecting pretty hard here. I have played for years on non RP worlds as well as RP worlds and I can assure you plenty of people tour just to see the spectacles. Your horizons are entirely short sighted possibly due to your home world. It's not just for RP and your "we" seems to be just you and maybe 2 other people. Some people just like to be creative. See Housing Snap or the massive JP housing twitter community. And when I visit those JP houses they actually have people in them from active FCs.

Some of them even speak English, you should visit.