Thread: Patch 5.25 Release Date

Just in time for Person 5 Royal to come out and me to not do it right away... or if they go a bit longer just in time for FFVII R to come out and me to not do it right away.

Assuming you can get to a store to pick up new games.

Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge

There is something called online shopping and delivery/download.

Not if you've already preordered a physical copy from a store before everything hit the fan. Especially if it was a limited/collector's edition.

490 seems fair, Tome weapons are very easy to get too. The stormblood Relic was pretty much irrelevant until Hydatos and most people did it just for something to do and the other rewards, I saw very few actually glam them. Due to weapon damage being such an important stat, it's unlikely that a 490 would compete with Savage weapons.

Originally Posted by FirstnameLastname

Thats some serious mental gymnastics there my friend.

A great deal of those you so nonchalantly put in one basket would probably be like "ah sweet an upgrade" and farm it. No idea where you got your twisted perception from.

He is speaking from experience. The reason all Raid weapons are 5 ilevels higher than the raid/augmented tomestone gear is due to the 2.0 i90 BCoB weapons not being desirable over the i90 Relic weapons and 3.05's i210 Gordian Weapons not being desirable over the i210 Augmented tomestone weapons.

Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

490 seems fair, Tome weapons are very easy to get too. The stormblood Relic was pretty much irrelevant until Hydatos and most people did it just for something to do and the other rewards, I saw very few actually glam them. Due to weapon damage being such an important stat, it's unlikely that a 490 would compete with Savage weapons.

During the previous expansions the release order was the following:

ARR

• i80 - 2.0*
• i90 - 2.0*
• i100 - 2.2
• i110 - 2.28
• i115 - 2.38
• i125 - 2.45
• i135 - 2.51

*Originally appeared in 1.X

HW

• i170 - 3.15
• i200 - 3.15
• i210 - 3.15
• i230 - 3.25
• i240 - 3.3
• i260 - 3.45
• i270 - 3.5
• i275 - 3.55

StB

• i290 - 4.0
• i335 - 4.25
• i340 - 4.25
• i345 - 4.25
• i355 - 4.25
• i360 - 4.36
• i365 - 4.36
• i370 - 4.36
• i375 - 4.45
• i380 - 4.45
• i385 - 4.45
• i390 - 4.55
• i395 - 4.55
• i400 - 4.55
• i405 - 4.55
• i405+ - 4.55

i490 is likely the best place for the 5.25 relics to end and i500 the best place for the 5.3X relics to end.

Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

He is speaking from experience. The reason all Raid weapons are 5 ilevels higher than the raid/augmented tomestone gear is due to the 2.0 i90 BCoB weapons not being desirable over the i90 Relic weapons and 3.05's i210 Gordian Weapons not being desirable over the i210 Augmented tomestone weapons.

Yep. Relics were originally supposed to be on par with savage weapons each tier, requiring a much longer and time consuming, but easier grind to get. But the raiders were upset and SE dialed it back so relics only became equal at the final step.

Sadly, it makes the grind kinda useless for anything but glam if they follow the Eureka path. Tome gear shouldn't be stronger than the relics.

Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

To be fair, Savage is significantly more difficult than grinding out tomes. So... it's a fair complaint. It also renders the Augmented Tome weapons worthless since why spend a 1,000 tomes when that weapon gets replaced probably before you even upgrade the thing?

Tome gear should be weaker than savage gear, definitely. Relic gear I think should depend on how long it takes to grind out.