Thread: Patch 5.25 Release Date

Originally Posted by Silverquick

Well I'm looking forward to the new patch,

I really want to do the Relic Weapons quests. I just hope they don't do anything stupid like make the farthest attainable Damage for the weapon less than or equal to the Crysterium Weapon.

If you really want a Crysterium weapon all you have to do is get 1000 seals and do the 8th Eden Raid 4 times and you've got the weapon.

The Relic weapons are a MAJOR pain in the rear and time consumer and significant effort way over and above 4 level 8 Eden Raids. They should be one step above Crysterium when you finish them at the end of the patch.

Sadly, they'll always be a step behind augmented tome weapons until the final patch when they can become BiS. The savage raiders would have a meltdown and flood the forums with salty tears if relics were that strong beforehand. Lol.

Plus, SE doesn't want to make tome weapons irrelevant altogether, so they'll be as strong as mid-step Ex-Trial weapons for most steps- better than regular tome gear, but worse than augmented. Or something like that.

People mostly do relics for the glam anyway, which is why I'm hoping they look better than the Eureka one, which were terrible compared to the previous relics, imo.

Originally Posted by Ryaz

Sadly, they'll always be a step behind augmented tome weapons until the final patch when they can become BiS. The savage raiders would have a meltdown and flood the forums with salty tears if relics were that strong beforehand. Lol.

Thats some serious mental gymnastics there my friend.

A great deal of those you so nonchalantly put in one basket would probably be like "ah sweet an upgrade" and farm it. No idea where you got your twisted perception from.

Originally Posted by Ryaz

Sadly, they'll always be a step behind augmented tome weapons until the final patch when they can become BiS. The savage raiders would have a meltdown and flood the forums with salty tears if relics were that strong beforehand. Lol.

Plus, SE doesn't want to make tome weapons irrelevant altogether, so they'll be as strong as mid-step Ex-Trial weapons for most steps- better than regular tome gear, but worse than augmented. Or something like that.

People mostly do relics for the glam anyway, which is why I'm hoping they look better than the Eureka one, which were terrible compared to the previous relics, imo.

That would be unfortunate,

I already have all the materials for a Crystarium Weapon and have had them for a long time I was just saving them until the Relic Weapons. So I could see whether I wanted to put it on another job or if Relics were worse put the Crystarium weapon on the one I play the most. They are just really easy to get in comparison to a Relic Weapon.

Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

Uhm... Cystarium Weapon like all Tomestone weapons post 3.2 have taken 7 weeks at release of normal mode clears to buy the weapon token and only after the next patch was released were the number of normal mode tokens required to buy the weapon token reduced to 4. So for the new Relics to be worth i490 they need to take roughly 7 weeks of work (later to be nerfed to about 4 weeks of work)

From what they have said getting the base Relic Weapon will not take very long so I could see a return to something similar to ARR's i80 relic quest giving an i480 weapon and a second longer step giving an i490 weapon.

I only ask 2 things.....make it less annoying and difficult to get, and make it look better then Eureka Weapons

Ideally they should be between the current tome and upgraded tome weapons.

Originally Posted by Seraphor

Ideally they should be between the current tome and upgraded tome weapons.

They could be lower than the non-augmented version if they have more materia slots.

Originally Posted by Lord_Umbra

They'll most likely be i485 though the base will probably be around i470 have 3 upgrade phases most likely at launch to go from i470 to i475 > i480 & finally i485, i485 is most likely to be Relics cap since Tome weapons will be be stuck at i490 until Nier part 2 since you'll need a coin from the first raid & second one to buy the upgrade materials for non-savage players.

Relic is basically a Glam for your main Job until the end of the expansion when they become BiS.

Relic cap is always higher than the tome weapon cap and that cap will be 400 when upgrades to the 390's are released.

Originally Posted by Seraphor

Ideally they should be between the current tome and upgraded tome weapons.

No, 495 is too high to come out so quickly, when the highest (505) is going to last until 5.4 (October roughly). Relic weapons have always been below, so I guess they will be around 485 now, and perhaps up to 500 by 5.35. And then they can be "BiS" by 5.55
Relic is just filler content, it's not really meant to be competitive with Savage Raid weapons, or even tome weapons when they come out.

Given that resources for testing, bug fixing and general support is somewhat decimated I'd suspect that release plans are out of the window unless it was polished and ready to go.