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    Quote Originally Posted by Leidolf View Post
    You know, technically I could see Garelmald having a class like this early on only for it to have been phased out as they forcibly conscripted aether-capable individuals. You could easily state that someone decided to revitalize the art. There are even substances that act to strengthen one's body with a Protect-like effect in the Pugilist Questline, so it could be the basis of shield for example.

    Edit: Right, it was called Pluto.
    Well technically we have access to a Garlean defector now at the head of the Bozjan resistance who is a trained Garlean Battle Medic. No revival of any form of needed since the empire uses them currently and now we have access to someone who can teach us.

    I don’t know how different it would act from a chemist or anything like that but it could be an interesting take on the job.

    Plus it doesn’t cross any thematic boundaries with the other three healers if it is item centered. Since pure blood Garleans can’t manipulate aether it’s probably gadget and potion based, with our version imbuing Aether into the items.
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    Well Books are very much a 'mystical' object to focus spells, and the Astrolabe while pseudo-scientific is mostly just a fancy focus as well. A mortar cannon would be significantly different. As opposed to say a Geomancer with a Bell, which could also be a decent healer choice I wouldn't mind too much, but is still just a mystical 'focus'.
    And yeah, a Chemist could work a set of robes, just as it could work with something a MCH would wear, which makes it all the more viable as a healer while also offering a different possible aesthetic.
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    As ultimately it is a Caster, it's going to fit in with the other Casters. Your level of variety is probably something along the lines of Scholar in terms of Armor with... I don't know, maybe Red Mage for weapon? So something still distinctly magical. Gun Mage like guns wouldn't be surprising I suppose.
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    Monberaux is a Trust in FFXI? That's news to me! (Goddess I've been out of that game too long! ). I do remember though in Campaign battles in FFXI each force would have combat medics among their fighters, they'd often have names like "woundpatcher" but were mechanically WHMs despite looking like chemists, but it seems in this case as you said he really does use Chemist style abilities making him one in all but name.

    I guess then, as long as the actual Chemist name is not used and a hypothetical chemist class here in FFXIV is given some other fitting name (like 'apothocerian') as the name chemist is too close to the pre-existing Disciple of the Hand class Alchemist (ALC), it could potentially fit in hindsight. Whether SE ever would though is another thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Monberaux is a Trust in FFXI? That's news to me! (Goddess I've been out of that game too long! ). I do remember though in Campaign battles in FFXI each force would have combat medics among their fighters, they'd often have names like "woundpatcher" but were mechanically WHMs despite looking like chemists, but it seems in this case as you said he really does use Chemist style abilities making him one in all but name.

    I guess then, as long as the actual Chemist name is not used and a hypothetical chemist class here in FFXIV is given some other fitting name (like 'apothocerian') as the name chemist is too close to the pre-existing Disciple of the Hand class Alchemist (ALC), it could potentially fit in hindsight. Whether SE ever would though is another thing.
    To be fair I haven't played in years and they just implemented him in October 2019! Not many people know about him.

    Ever since 5.25 we have had Bajsaljen introduced as a Garlean battle medic at the head of the Bozjan Resistance. Could be a close yet different enough take on the class!
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    I think it was March of this year they implemented the guy:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSafo5Izr14

    Some of the stuff does give me ideals that can be combined with some kind of firearm. Like for example, the Life Water is basically a Potion when put through the firearm and fired into the air, the pressure would turn it into an aerosol that covers the players to give them a Regen. It could also give some buffs that were taken out of ASTs cards, like enhanced MP regen, boosted Weaponskill speed, damage reduction, increased Crit Rate. I mean, it'd piss off the AST players given what they've lost but, the idea is there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leidolf View Post
    I think it was March of this year they implemented the guy:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSafo5Izr14

    Some of the stuff does give me ideals that can be combined with some kind of firearm. Like for example, the Life Water is basically a Potion when put through the firearm and fired into the air, the pressure would turn it into an aerosol that covers the players to give them a Regen. It could also give some buffs that were taken out of ASTs cards, like enhanced MP regen, boosted Weaponskill speed, damage reduction, increased Crit Rate. I mean, it'd piss off the AST players given what they've lost but, the idea is there.
    Oh how the tables would have been turned if that ended up being the case with buffs, with the the rumor that Ast got the re-purposed "mix" ability in HW when Chemist was pushed aside for Astrologian.

    That playstyle also would how I would expect a battle medic to play if we were to get it.
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    Thought I'd come back to this. Made a few tweaks and added a couple new utility skills to buff up the number, as I've also added a skill progression section up to level 90.
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    One final tweak before I write this off, seeing as we're only a few months away from finding out the actual 6.0 jobs.
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