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[yTony]

Your revisionist history claims all immigration is illegal?

Good to know.

Given the information I provided and others people point of view, immigration is clearly not a simple choice, more likely to be an opportunity. And yet you're here trying to deny it somehow.
Again, this is not the subject of the thread.

[SamRF]

Given the information I provided and others people point of view, immigration is clearly not a simple choice, more likely to be an opportunity. And yet you're here trying to deny it somehow.
Again, this is not the subject of the thread.

The guy is either an insecure troll or an insecure as well as ignorant person, stop giving him attention I'd say until he learns to give his arguments in respectable manner.

[Eli85]

Given the information I provided and others people point of view, immigration is clearly not a simple choice, more likely to be an opportunity. And yet you're here trying to deny it somehow.
Again, this is not the subject of the thread.

Immigration is a choice, in the same way that your decision to pay the sub fee or not is the choice.

No matter how many sweet, honeyed words you use, you won't get special snowflake treatment .

[Penthea]

Immigration is a choice, in the same way that your decision to pay the sub fee or not is the choice.

No matter how many sweet, honeyed words you use, you won't get special snowflake treatment .

How to spot someone who has no idea that they're in a privileged position.

[Rymm]

Immigration is a choice, in the same way that your decision to pay the sub fee or not is the choice.

No matter how many sweet, honeyed words you use, you won't get special snowflake treatment .

Tangentially related~

My husband is Brazilian. I am American. We've been married more than six years now and the first five of those we lived in BR. We decided to move back to the States in early 2019. Even with us being married and he getting more or less 'automatic' approval for a green card, we've been waiting 13 months for final approval for him since we started filing paperwork. We've shelled out nearly $3,000.00 dollars for associated fees (some paid directly to the government, some for related things like his required physical or translating all of his documents to English.) And we're talking mountains of complicated forms to fill out and needing to produce just about every official document either of us have ever been issued in our entire lives. If we wanted to hire an immigration lawyer to smooth the process out, rock bottom price we were able to find was $5,000.00 and that's in addition to all the aforementioned fees. I can't even imagine what it must be like for people starting from scratch and trying to immigrate to the US legally, without an American family member or a huge pile of cash.

Frankly sir, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

Actually on topic~

I sympathize with you OP, but I think it's unlikely that SE will do anything unless a large enough portion of the playerbase raises hell and/or drops their sub. SE used to have regional pricing in BR but back in July(ish) of 2017 they decided to ninja-remove for nearly all their foreign markets. It took them days to even acknowledge the change and weeks of sustained outcry and a huge drop in review score before they mollified people by going back to the original pricing for a couple of months to 'give people notice' prior to it changing again.

[Eli85]

The issue is not entitlement. It's currencies being adjusted only by the rate of the US dollar. For south america the dollar is very strong and this translates into to high sub prices for them as their own currency is weak when translated to dollars.

It's kind of like language translation. It's gonna be stupid if you always do it directly.

Direct currency translation may appear nonsensical for the consumer, it is the only practical decision for business, especially online. When a company turns regional pricing on, so, so many customers setup a VPN and pay via the weakest possible currency. Which means significantly less dollars to the company for whoever does it, which is many.

Every business sets a dollar value for their product or service, and the only way to survive is to do a direct translation. Otherwise you're just leaving way too much money on the table.

[SamRF]

Direct currency translation may appear nonsensical for the consumer, it is the only practical decision for business, especially online. When a company turns regional pricing on, so, so many customers setup a VPN and pay via the weakest possible currency. Which means significantly less dollars to the company for whoever does it, which is many.

Every business sets a dollar value for their product or service, and the only way to survive is to do a direct translation. Otherwise you're just leaving way too much money on the table.

Are there that many people really going through the trouble of using VPN for that? WoW has region adjusted pricing for their sub and I'm pretty sure they offer cheaper subs in Brazil. They're doing that to maximize their profit, and they probably know what they're doing being the highest populated MMO for a while now.

The only good reason I could see SE not following suit with Blizzard is that there isn't a big enough market in Brazil for FFXIV to "risk" lowering the fee.

[Eli85]

Are there that many people really going through the trouble of using VPN for that? WoW has region adjusted pricing for their sub and I'm pretty sure they offer cheaper subs in Brazil. They're doing that to maximize their profit, and they probably know what they're doing being the highest populated MMO for a while now.

The only good reason I could see SE not following suit with Blizzard is that there isn't a big enough market in Brazil for FFXIV to "risk" lowering the fee.

Yes, there has been when other companies have done this in the past. Most internet users have a VPN already, since there is no reason not to have one, and every reason to have one. So, if you regularly pay for this game, and you can use your existing VPN to pay a fraction of the cost, why wouldn't you?

[SamRF]

Yes, there has been when other companies have done this in the past. Most internet users have a VPN already, since there is no reason not to have one, and every reason to have one. So, if you regularly pay for this game, and you can use your existing VPN to pay a fraction of the cost, why wouldn't you?

It's going to be debatable. I can see both VPN abuse and overpriced regional subs leading to lower profits. It comes down to numbers in the end. Whichever path leads to more profit is the path that should be taken here imo so I'm with you on that. Still can't ignore the fact that Steam and other games offer regional fees, what OP is requesting doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

(besides: I called you a troll earlier because you kept using snowflake and sugar coating accusation. If you had simply presented your argument like you have here, it would have sounded much more convincing and compelling)

[Eli85]

(besides: I called you a troll earlier because you kept using snowflake and sugar coating accusation. If you had simply presented your argument like you have here, it would have sounded much more convincing and compelling)

You really have an inflated sense of self-importance if you think you can talk to people like that. :/