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    Quote Originally Posted by yTony View Post
    Thats absolutely not what I'm saying.
    And again, staying in your country is not a choice.
    ^ True facts right there. You cannot just move to a country whenever, there’s a lot of time, and money which goes into immigration. My husband just recently became an NZ resident, it took him 3 years, thousands of dollars, and if his health was worse (If you are born with a health condition, SOMETHING YOU CANNOT CHOOSE, depending on the condition, countries won’t let you stay), he simply wouldn’t of been allowed to immigrate. If he ran out of money for the immigration fees? His visa would lapse, and they’d kick him out of the country, as simple as that.

    People get stuck in their countries if they don’t have the money or health to immigrate.
    I’m mean, sure people who are poor can cross borders and then stay, but it’s usually illegal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    So the millions of people who immigrated over the years is a lie?

    Good to know.
    Are you encouraging people to illegally immigrate?
    Good to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yTony View Post
    Are you encouraging people to illegally immigrate?
    Good to know.
    Your revisionist history claims all immigration is illegal?

    Good to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Your revisionist history claims all immigration is illegal?

    Good to know.
    Given the information I provided and others people point of view, immigration is clearly not a simple choice, more likely to be an opportunity. And yet you're here trying to deny it somehow.
    Again, this is not the subject of the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yTony View Post
    Given the information I provided and others people point of view, immigration is clearly not a simple choice, more likely to be an opportunity. And yet you're here trying to deny it somehow.
    Again, this is not the subject of the thread.
    Immigration is a choice, in the same way that your decision to pay the sub fee or not is the choice.

    No matter how many sweet, honeyed words you use, you won't get special snowflake treatment .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Oh, boy, there is a lot of entitlement here. You don't get special treatment because you've played the game for X time. You either can afford the subscription and play, or you can't afford it and you don't.

    That's it.
    The issue is not entitlement. It's currencies being adjusted only by the rate of the US dollar. For south america the dollar is very strong and this translates into to high sub prices for them as their own currency is weak when translated to dollars.

    It's kind of like language translation. It's gonna be stupid if you always do it directly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yTony View Post
    Given the information I provided and others people point of view, immigration is clearly not a simple choice, more likely to be an opportunity. And yet you're here trying to deny it somehow.
    Again, this is not the subject of the thread.
    The guy is either an insecure troll or an insecure as well as ignorant person, stop giving him attention I'd say until he learns to give his arguments in respectable manner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    The issue is not entitlement. It's currencies being adjusted only by the rate of the US dollar. For south america the dollar is very strong and this translates into to high sub prices for them as their own currency is weak when translated to dollars.

    It's kind of like language translation. It's gonna be stupid if you always do it directly.
    Direct currency translation may appear nonsensical for the consumer, it is the only practical decision for business, especially online. When a company turns regional pricing on, so, so many customers setup a VPN and pay via the weakest possible currency. Which means significantly less dollars to the company for whoever does it, which is many.

    Every business sets a dollar value for their product or service, and the only way to survive is to do a direct translation. Otherwise you're just leaving way too much money on the table.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Direct currency translation may appear nonsensical for the consumer, it is the only practical decision for business, especially online. When a company turns regional pricing on, so, so many customers setup a VPN and pay via the weakest possible currency. Which means significantly less dollars to the company for whoever does it, which is many.

    Every business sets a dollar value for their product or service, and the only way to survive is to do a direct translation. Otherwise you're just leaving way too much money on the table.
    Are there that many people really going through the trouble of using VPN for that? WoW has region adjusted pricing for their sub and I'm pretty sure they offer cheaper subs in Brazil. They're doing that to maximize their profit, and they probably know what they're doing being the highest populated MMO for a while now.

    The only good reason I could see SE not following suit with Blizzard is that there isn't a big enough market in Brazil for FFXIV to "risk" lowering the fee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamRF View Post
    Are there that many people really going through the trouble of using VPN for that? WoW has region adjusted pricing for their sub and I'm pretty sure they offer cheaper subs in Brazil. They're doing that to maximize their profit, and they probably know what they're doing being the highest populated MMO for a while now.

    The only good reason I could see SE not following suit with Blizzard is that there isn't a big enough market in Brazil for FFXIV to "risk" lowering the fee.
    Yes, there has been when other companies have done this in the past. Most internet users have a VPN already, since there is no reason not to have one, and every reason to have one. So, if you regularly pay for this game, and you can use your existing VPN to pay a fraction of the cost, why wouldn't you?
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