Please Remove Housing Timers During the Covid-19 Epidemic

[MomomiMomi]

The only real threat is the misinformation and mass panic over something less harmful than the flu. The flu kills tens of thousands of people a year and this has killed like... 2k in 6 months? Mankind as usual makes things worse than it actually is. Your house will be fine. And if you for some reason have to keep working, well I guess it'll just be business as usual won't it? Buying up mass amounts supplies because you're paranoid isn't an excuse for extending a feature for a fictional object of no real value.

You're right, one of the big threats is misinformation. Your post is a good example of misinformation being spread.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

You're right, one of the big threats is misinformation. Your post is a good example of misinformation being spread.

Pretty much everything being spread about the virus is misinformation. There are no 2 sources that say the same thing. It's mind-boggling how bad the media are handling this.

[DamianFatale]

Google it, but be wary of the results. Check for official sources. Don't rely on social media for (mis)information.

Yes it's a pandemic, but it's basically the flu. (Edit: A potentially severe form that we don't have immunity/vaccines for at this point, but still part of that family of viruses.) The average person who gets it will be dealing with it by staying home. That's what the panic buying is about - people being paranoid about the idea that they wouldn't be able to go out to the shops if they got sick.

Official sources are saying that the flu comparison isn't accurate.

[Iscah]

Best information is directly from the source: in this case, the World Health Organization.

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-de...-coronaviruses

[QT_Melon]

Best information is directly from the source: in this case, the World Health Organization.

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-de...-coronaviruses

This isn't just about fatality. Just because this is a recent outbreak it doesn't make it less worse than the flu. In Itally for example the outbreak caused a fatality rate from COVID 19 that is higher than China's. Italy is known for a much better health care than China.

The point is that this pandemic is NEW, there's no known cure. This makes it even more dangerous due to the fact you can be a carrier of the disease and show no known symptoms. Testing has been SLOW.

"Okay but many of us still don't die"
Which is fantastic, but there's other lingering health concerns that don't involve death. Scar tissue is another problem. So it's a valid concern to not want other lingering health effects even if they aren't particularly fatal.

It's worse for the US because the US was slow on the uptake on even testing for it to begin with. This is why the cases rose so quickly, because it was just outright dismissed.

Influenza has different strains - https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/viruses/types.htm so it's not just one type.

Yes people shouldn't panic, but there's a reason for Cancel Everything. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ything/607675/

That being said - about the housing situation - This is a tough call. I don't think at this time it should suspend housing but who knows what will happen in the next week. Isolation means being at home where you may be playing FFXIV, but it depends on the economic situation panning out as well.

The fact it's causing other issues economically and why historians may be amusingly referring to it as "Disaster Voltron" https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/stat...03944151007232

I'm a pretty laid back person, but when I see someone just only talking about "Well it's less fatal than the flu" kind of completely miss the point why this is an important issue. It isn't JUST about death.

[TheMightyMollusk]

It's worse for the US because the US was slow on the uptake on even testing for it to begin with. This is why the cases rose so quickly, because it was just outright dismissed.

Doesn't help that our healthcare system is a joke and worker protection is nonexistent. Some people can't afford to get tested, and some can't afford to take the time out of work to recover.

[Vahlnir]

Doesn't help that our healthcare system is a joke and worker protection is nonexistent. Some people can't afford to get tested, and some can't afford to take the time out of work to recover.

It also doesn't help that the virus has likely been all around us for months before it was even reported. Some have likely gotten sick and recovered (or not in some cases) and no one thought it was anything more than cold and flu things. It is hard to fight something that no one knew was there until it was wayyyy too late in the game (thanks China!). Anything countries/states do now is far too little too late, but I guess something is better than nothing at all.

[QT_Melon]

Doesn't help that our healthcare system is a joke and worker protection is nonexistent. Some people can't afford to get tested, and some can't afford to take the time out of work to recover.

Along with what someone said about not knowing about the virus until it was too late.

Because the United States has been extremely sluggish in testing patients for the coronavirus, the official tally of 604 likely represents a fraction of the real caseload. But even if we take this number at face value, it suggests that we should prepare to have up to 10 times as many cases a week from today, and up to 100 times as many cases two weeks from today.

But in cases of Italy which is known for their care system this didn't stop the fatality rate (among other things).

Meanwhile, the news from Italy, another country with a highly developed medical system, has so far been shockingly bad. In the affluent region of Lombardy, for example, there have been 7,375 confirmed cases of the virus as of Sunday. Of these patients, 622 had recovered, 366 had died, and the majority were still sick. Even under the highly implausible assumption that all of the still-sick make a full recovery, this would suggest a case fatality rate of 5 percent—significantly higher, not lower, than in China.

Either way, regardless if the Fatality rate of the flu is lower fataly and "old, weak, compromised immune systems" are more susceptible so what?

That's like saying no one should take the flu shot because it doesn't affect anyone and you're likely to die in a car accident.

This fails even more so because there's no known cure and we're not certain who has it and could be a carrier. There's also permanent damage that can happen even if you don't die from it.

The sky is not falling, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't take observation of your surroundings and act accordingly and not dismiss this issue.

That said, reiterating again, I'm not of current mind to suspend housing over COVID 19. Right now the game runs and the current treatment is isolation from others (which means you'll be likely staying home), and unless SE had to turn off the servers or something due to the pandemic there's also no reason to ask for extra game days. That's absolutely silly.

[Rasikko]

Doesn't help that our healthcare system is a joke and worker protection is nonexistent. Some people can't afford to get tested, and some can't afford to take the time out of work to recover.

Your post needs to be sticked. It's the harsh reality of working in the US.. I posted this bit at another forum as a bit of a joke, but unfortunately as a 19yr veteran of this company, I'm sorry to say, I've seen this happen to people who get the flu and other debilitating things:

I just feel for kroger employees. Managers ain't gonna wanna hear crap like "Sorry I can't work because I got the coronavirus". They gonna want you to bring your butt in anyway and throw crap to the shelf + work overtime.

I will have to return to the US soon, and it's the harsh working life that is the only reason I'm not thrilled to go back. In Finland, if you get sick, you actually get treated like a human and can stay home.

[Theodric]

Even as someone who has a house myself, I don't want to see the housing timer stopped each and every time there's some sort of disaster going on.