Give us the Ishgard 1 rewards back ! (plz)

[Missbone]

First off i don't think that everything is bad in the new Diadem and its a good opportunity for the devs to try out new stuff that makes gathering a bit more interesting (like the rocket launcher witch i think is really cool)

However like a lot other stuff in this game its far from being perfect and i cant help than get the impression that this is another hasty added feature that wasn't thought through until the end.



Here are the points that bother me:

1.) What really pissed me off whas that they basically removed the whole rewards for the crafted ishgard 1 stuff (3 points instead of 57 are nothing). I have read nowhere from that before that patch and also my FC witch also has some active crafters did not heard anything about that. I didn't had the time to finish my latest Collectibles before the patch and realized to late that i wasted a lot of time and mats when it was already to late.

I really enjoyed the old way. Flying between the zones, gathering each mat at its own spot (like its always was), the change of scenery and music that comes witch each zone and the possibility to quickly join hunts if one spawnt in the zone while i was gathering there.
And most importantly, it didn't totally screwed my inventory space. For one gathering round i just needed 3 inventory spots, one for each mat.

I wish i could continue this way of playing, but since that patch its gone. There is no point in doing it anymore because its totally worthless.


2.) The feeling of being forced doing the new stuff. If i want now some points my only way to go is gathering in the new zone. Sure it looks nice and its good that i can meet/see other ppl there that also doing the same thing as me. But what total annoys me is that i now need to fly all over the zone (wich is pretty big) even if want collecting just one specific mat. So instead of these weird rdm spawns everywhere i would prefer fixed spots around the zone like it is in the rest of the game. With the way it is now i have the feeling that i need to spent a lot more time to get the same amount of scripts like before.


3.) The third and last mayor issue i have with this new zone is this unbelievable inventory spam. Like already mentioned before, 3 free slots for the mats where enough for me all the time. Now, if want to make most of my time during 1 round, i need nearly a whole bag just during the gathering time while im in Diadem. But that's not enough for SE. Thx to this weird improvement system i also need an another half bag or more thanks to the leftovers. Instead of being able to turn the whole stack in, it only counts in 10 steps. I find it a big imposition that they throw so much new inventory spam at us without giving an extra bag for unapproved diadem mats or some other kind of extra storage.



That's it, of course diadem has also it good points, but these things above are real fun killers for me. Sadly i don't think they will get fixed. ;/

[Kidria]

Inventory issues aside, I'm pretty sure they nerfed Ishgardian phase 1 rewards so people couldn't do what very many planned -- cap out scrips, then make enough collectables to cap out AGAIN when new phase drop, and reap the rewards easily with little to no effort with the new content. Now, that's not official, simply what I think is what happened.

They're gonna push the new content, of course. I don't care for the approval system either, esp with the inventory bloat, but I guess it's there to prevent bot-grinds? Maybe? That's the only thing I can think of.

[hynaku]

Really ticked me off they make Ishgardian phase one mats worthless. I also had my scripts capped just for the release of phase 2. They should left the crafting part alone and just made Diedem for gatherer & fishing scripts only and not made any of mats there used for crafting. I went there one day and never returned to diadem from it being so boring and confused on where the nodes to get mats you want is at for crafting the phase 2 items which is mostly the same as phase 1 items.

[RyuSaarva]

they could add a new currency for restoration which you can only get from the new recipes but that would take more space from the menu so they did this instead.

[Hasrat]

I don't really see why "leftovers" are a problem. Just spend a few extra minutes gathering until you finish off the stack of 10?

[Vidu]

"As a side note, brand new items will be used for Ishgardian Restoration and Skysteel Tools, so we’d just like to warn that stockpiling existing items may not have a purpose for these contents." - I dont know how to quote from a Live Letter post, but in the section under timestamp 00:47:22 you'll find this quote: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...st-(12-20-2019).

I dont know if they made it clearer at any other point (but at the very least: they mentioned it in a live letter, but I know that I obstained from gathering the old mats because I knew they'd be pretty much useless with the return of Diadem

[wereotter]

Considering ranking was added this time.... it's obvious that they didn't want people sandbagging the turn in options to try and get an advantage.

They want you to do the new content, not just grind out the old one to try to jump ahead.

[Missbone]

Considering ranking was added this time.... it's obvious that they didn't want people sandbagging the turn in options to try and get an advantage.

They want you to do the new content, not just grind out the old one to try to jump ahead.

I don't know if you have taken a closer look to this stuff, but the ranking thing wouldn't have been an issue at all. The Score for the Ranking is separated from the scripts, (when you turn something in or approve you get basically 2 values now instead of one) they could just have set the points for ranking to zero like they have done with all the stuff from ishgard 2 below lvl 60.

[Stepjam]

I don't really see why "leftovers" are a problem. Just spend a few extra minutes gathering until you finish off the stack of 10?

The tier one nodes are gone. If you got leftovers, you gotta buy the mats off the market now to do more tier 1 crafts

[Krotoan]

The tier one nodes are gone. If you got leftovers, you gotta buy the mats off the market now to do more tier 1 crafts

They're talking about the new nodes. Only convertable in stacks of 10, so if you get uneven amounts you have yet another inventory slot used up after verification unless you wanna double check all stacks before leaving diadem and make sure they're multiples of 10.