Physical range dps damage?

[Connor]

It’s definitely true that Summoner utility is way more limited use than anything ranged have, so it’s a fair point that the two aren’t really comparable. Especially with how Everlasting Flight works (why exactly did Summoner need a random passive regen anyway lol)

I’m definitely not suggesting that ranged should have damage comparable to Summoner, since that would just make things even more unbalanced.

I do still think it’d be nice to see more ‘support-y’ things on ranged, especially ones that require some kind of planning like Requiem on Bard or Machinist’s debuffs. And naturally, I’d be happy if ranged dps was lower/equal to what it is now to compensate for having utility. And I hate to sound like a ‘oh but I’m not like the girls’ contrarian, but I actually really enjoyed Bard in 3.0 (not that I didn’t think it was clunky as hell and needed some real fine tuning lol)

Or maybe a better way to put it would be that I’d like those abilities to be more involved with the job, especially for Bard. Dancer already has a really good foundation as a ‘support class’ and it feels rewarding to use Steps since you’re actively doing things to support the party (as opposed to just spamming an oGCD every 30 seconds).

Then again, when Bard/Machinist actually were support-oriented, they were guaranteed takes to any raid content and essentially became kings of the meta. So I do get why ranged aren’t really allowed to have support either, especially not something involving. Because naturally the more involving it is, the stronger it has to be (otherwise it’s like, ‘why am I doing all this effort to give the party 1% damage buff lol), and ranged can’t have strong support abilities.

So I do get why ranged has to have the limited-use / cooldown-only support rather than stuff like the old gcd songs. They’re impossible to balance and just make it so ranged are guaranteed raid spots, which isn’t very fair on other dps.

I guess logically, the only thing they really can do then is to raise ranged dps, but only by like a tiny amount so it doesn’t overtake casters? And just keep everything else the exact same

[Dfess]

I do still think it’d be nice to see more ‘support-y’ things on ranged, especially ones that require some kind of planning like Requiem on Bard or Machinist’s debuffs.

The problem is Bards don't have Requiem anymore.