Physical range dps damage?

[Dfess]

Physical ranged dps does the least amount of damage in comparison to melee and caster? I never knew this. But, why? Shouldn't all dps be fighting for top parse? I can understand them doing slightly less dps because they are out of the way of most enemy abilities but, from what I'm reading they actually can't top parse meters at all. That kind of sucks honestly.

[linay]

Probably because they don't have to worry about casting or positional or range. If they can top DPS as well, not really much reason to play any other DPS unless you want the res abilities of SMN/RDM.

[Enla]

They can kite mobs, DNC and BRD both have a lot of raid utility which to SE means an automatic nerf to their damage output (this is why MCH tops them both in DPS because it lacks a lot of their utility), and they also don't have to stay still while attacking for the most part. You could make an argument against raid utility being an unfair thing to nerf damage output for, but there's no reason a ranged DPS should have the same damage potential as, say, a BLM who has to intimately know each fight in order to maximize the fact that they're basically a near unmovable turret for most of it.

[RyuDragnier]

Because we've got mobility and range, and are able to basically run and gun. In the case of DNC, you're doing far less than every other job in the game, with your only real rotation being a buff rotation along with Technical Step as a big damage window. Outside of that (which comes up every 2 minutes), it's literally Standard Step every 30s, and use whatever procs. It's a pretty braindead job.

[Dfess]

That honestly doesn't make any sense to me. Gear should be the main factor in how much damage you do. Not the amount of utility you bring to a raid.

[LolitaBansheeMeru]

That honestly doesn't make any sense to me. Gear should be the main factor in how much damage you do. Not the amount of utility you bring to a raid.

eh honestly the reverse is true the more utility you have should matter more than your gear... your gear is just a tool but the Utility honestly should matter 20x more than your equipment.

[linay]

That honestly doesn't make any sense to me. Gear should be the main factor in how much damage you do. Not the amount of utility you bring to a raid.

Gear is the main factor in how much damage you can do...with your class. Your class still limits what you can do.

[Kewitt]

A good DNC and brd can get better numbers the melee who don't care or don't do positional.

[Frosthaven]

That honestly doesn't make any sense to me. Gear should be the main factor in how much damage you do. Not the amount of utility you bring to a raid.

I've been playing a LOT of red mage. The job is notorious for not topping parses (assuming equal skill) but bringing in a survival kit. I love this job.

But, if we also topped dps charts all things being equal, then why ever bring anything else. It would completely invalidate dps that doesn't have the utility. Imagine a black mage being reduced to "a red mage without res".

Yes, utility has a value. You can argue the amount of value, but to discredit it full stock is incredibly short sighted. I'm floored that people are capable of imagining that to not be true.

[VenKitsune]

MCH definately needs some buffs. It has the same utility almost as SAM or BLM and yet as far as im aware RDM does more damage than it.

Let me say that again - Red mage does more damage than machinist, and regardless of movement too. People will use the excuse of "Oh well we can move and shoot at the same time" but honestly, that's just a benefit of the role and shouldn't be justification of why they're currently AS weak as they currently are, especially when you consider most downtime in fights these days is forced like in phase transitions when the boss goes untargetable etc.