Feedback on Expert Recipes:

[Dan4077]

I’m generally a forum lurker, but yikes, your comment...

Comments like this are exactly why they keep changing the crafting system every expansion and never stick to one plan. Guess what, buddy? That’s how crafting used to always work. It was all totally rng up until 4.0. I didn’t mind 4.0 crafting but I know a lot of my hard core MLG crafter friends didn’t because of Prudent Touch action Lol. Anyways. You spent your gil, you started a craft, and just did your best to utilize your toolkit and hope rng didn’t scree you over.

If RNG is so “tedious” for you, then don’t craft it. Nobody is forcing you to do expert recipes, and if square chooses to listen to poor sport players like yourself, we will be repeating history all over again. People whining about players with a lot of Gil. People whining about rng because it inconveniences them. People whining about something that they don’t even need to do. I don’t mean to be rude. But I have to call this type of behavior out. This is exactly what led crafting to its demise in 5.0. Because of whiners. Just adapt to what’s given to you, and don’t whine. And for the record, who cares if a reward isn’t cheap. It’s not supposed to be if it’s a special reward. And by the way, “tedious” seems to be code around here for “it pisses me off and I don’t like it.”

Wow, and people say hardcore players are entitled. Ridiculous!

Entitled? First off I am talking about the new ishgard 2 star item not normal master recipes. So if criticize content I do not like, I am entitled. A game I pay for I think gets me some right to criticize the direction it is heading. That is a incompetent thing to say. In the 2nd post you decided to make you come out with the words entitled/whiner. You are making yourself look incompetent. I suggest you stay in lurker mode if this is the type of comments you make. I gave a reason MY reason why I believe it to be bad. I did not just type ITS BAD,REMOVE IT! I said my reasons why I believe it's bad. I have screwed around with this new craft about 30ish times trying many variations with only slight success so my OPINION which may blow your mind is that it is too hard at its current state. The only people that make comments like you are final fantasy fan boys. God forbid we criticize an aspect of the game we don't like you then become triggered and finally make that 2nd comment. I suggest in the future try to be a bit more intelligent and not try to shut peoples opinions down with words like ENTITLED/WHINER. lol cmon are we in middle school here?
Oh and question did you really just call your friends MLG Crafters LMFAO~!? Dude back in day crafting was mainly inner quiet while raising it with hasty touch there is nothing MLG about crafting dude ahahaha lets not act like your "friends" are rolling out in like CSGO tournys or something. Even back then there were rotation and all you had to do was follow and hope that the skills succeed and that you got procs.

[testname]

If You think Expert is too hard, then it is not For You - Sorry

The game has already 99% of items that You can craft with closed eyes, You can craft those instead

[MilkAndChoco]

I’m generally a forum lurker, but yikes, your comment...

Comments like this are exactly why they keep changing the crafting system every expansion and never stick to one plan. Guess what, buddy? That’s how crafting used to always work. It was all totally rng up until 4.0. I didn’t mind 4.0 crafting but I know a lot of my hard core MLG crafter friends didn’t because of Prudent Touch action Lol. Anyways. You spent your gil, you started a craft, and just did your best to utilize your toolkit and hope rng didn’t scree you over. That’s how it always was. I admit it made me annoyed but it was an intriguing system nonetheless. The expert recipes are fine the way they are, and don’t need to be changed, it’s definitely better than master recipe’s poor difficulty spike.

If RNG is so “tedious” for you, then don’t craft it. Nobody is forcing you to do expert recipes, and if square chooses to listen to poor sport players like yourself, we will be repeating history all over again. People whining about players with a lot of Gil. People whining about rng because it inconveniences them. People whining about something that they don’t even need to do. I don’t mean to be rude. But I have to call this type of behavior out. This is exactly what led crafting to its demise in 5.0. Because of whiners. Just adapt to what’s given to you, and don’t whine. And for the record, who cares if a reward isn’t cheap. It’s not supposed to be if it’s a special reward. And by the way, “tedious” seems to be code around here for “it pisses me off and I don’t like it.”

Wow, and people say hardcore players are entitled. Ridiculous!

dont bother with salty lalafell lol some people are never happy and think everything in crafting is hard

[Dan4077]

If You think Expert is too hard, then it is not For You - Sorry

The game has already 99% of items that You can craft with closed eyes, You can craft those instead

If all you can say is craft that instead is the same as saying "Play a different game" when you criticize one you are playing. Right I can craft anything else easy. And of course with the right procs this to can hit the cap of 60k something for progress. But like I said to the other person I do not want the CHANCE and I say chance crafting heads in a similar direction SO I had shared my opinion on it. Is that a problem for you? Now crafting isn't like this now and that is fine. However I personally do not like it and I didn't ask for an apology from some random. If you would like to debate my opinion on it be my guest but if all you are here to do is bring forth a mediocre at best comment why are you even bothering?

[Dan4077]

dont bother with salty lalafell lol some people are never happy and think everything in crafting is hard

Generic fanboy comment, quote me where I said everything in crafting is hard? Oh wait I never said that. Won't bother "discussing" this with you cause you are 1 of two things, a troll or a fanboy. And neither have any interest in actually discussing anything.

[Jubeihero]

I’m generally a forum lurker, but yikes, your comment...

Comments like this are exactly why they keep changing the crafting system every expansion and never stick to one plan. Guess what, buddy? That’s how crafting used to always work. It was all totally rng up until 4.0. I didn’t mind 4.0 crafting but I know a lot of my hard core MLG crafter friends didn’t because of Prudent Touch action Lol. Anyways. You spent your gil, you started a craft, and just did your best to utilize your toolkit and hope rng didn’t scree you over. That’s how it always was. I admit it made me annoyed but it was an intriguing system nonetheless.

If RNG is so “tedious” for you, then don’t craft it. Nobody is forcing you to do expert recipes, and if square chooses to listen to poor sport players like yourself, we will be repeating history all over again. People whining about players with a lot of Gil. People whining about rng because it inconveniences them. People whining about something that they don’t even need to do. I don’t mean to be rude. But I have to call this type of behavior out. This is exactly what led crafting to its demise in 5.0. Because of whiners. Just adapt to what’s given to you, and don’t whine. And for the record, who cares if a reward isn’t cheap. It’s not supposed to be if it’s a special reward. And by the way, “tedious” seems to be code around here for “it pisses me off and I don’t like it.”

Wow, and people say hardcore players are entitled. Ridiculous!

I'm generally not even into forums, but your comment legit made me register to reply to how unbelievable this post this is. I've never had to do that so congrats on actually getting me to do this.

i've never heard of anyone saying the words MLG And Final Fantasy in the same contexts. Much less then that MLG CRAFTERS. Much why is change bad? When Ingenuity was removed and we got two new skills. There wasn't as much backlash only cause there was a overall lower quality of a lot of item to compensate that change of losing 15% to a crafting rotation. so it was adaptable. This is far from that this is 3x what Neo-Ishgard Gear is 3 TIMES That is a outrageous.

Also can we drop the whole act of how you don't want to be rude? You are already being rude so don't try to safe face by saying that. We all pay the same avg amount for a sub to this game. it's okay to point out flaws in something. this is a huge flaw and oversight. Making it challenging is okay. Making it where you legit have to pray you get the right proc at the right time and waste time and effort for a bogus crafting rotation? Come on Fam, It isn't like you re-spec your current gear and suddenly you are a godlike craftier again.

Also before you say it. No i'm not gonna stop crafting or i'm not gonna stop playing the game. Cause just that's a stupid Rebuttal.

[testname]

If all you can say is craft that instead is the same as saying "Play a different game" when you criticize one you are playing. Right I can craft anything else easy. And of course with the right procs this to can hit the cap of 60k something for progress. But like I said to the other person I do not want the CHANCE and I say chance crafting heads in a similar direction SO I had shared my opinion on it. Is that a problem for you? Now crafting isn't like this now and that is fine. However I personally do not like it and I didn't ask for an apology from some random. If you would like to debate my opinion on it be my guest but if all you are here to do is bring forth a mediocre at best comment why are you even bothering?

You clearly don't understand trick behind Ex recipes.

The kuppo lottery and all other rewards You can achieve crafting one tier lower item.

I think Your anger comes from ~> that You literally can't complete it, thus must be RNG fault

Think about it as about heavy platform game, where You have to decide where to jump and when, to get to end - there will be people making better scores than You - thus game is broken ?

[Caimie_Tsukino]

[Dan4077]

You clearly don't understand trick behind Ex recipes.

The kuppo lottery and all other rewards You can achieve crafting one tier lower item.

I think Your anger comes from ~> that You literally can't complete it, thus must be RNG fault

Think about it as about heavy platform game, where You have to decide where to jump and when, to get to end - there will be people making better scores than You - thus game is broken ?

No, you thought wrong I completed it but it is at such a low amount compared to fails cause it you need to fish for procs. And please explain the "trick" cause from where I am standing the "trick" is fishing procs then using the best skills that benefit, then hoping for an excellent condition. But please enlighten me with thy "trick" behind it.

[Dan4077]

And your point is what? I already said a few times it is my opinion on it, and I do not want to see it start be used for making or obtaining actual items. That is my opinion. As of right now no it has no effect on anyone cause it is pointless to do unless you purely want the challenge, and if that is all they want to do with it or maybe add an achievement/title. I am perfectly okay with that. What I do not want to see is this becoming the norm for regular crafting. Do you understand what I am saying now?

I think it is funny you wasted your time making that for 0 reason. I already know of all those crafts and been making them this entire time. Try reading the comments in there entirety next time. And do not come into the forums telling people not to "complain" as you like to call it you are just making yourself look completely incompetent telling someone in the FORUMS not to complain/criticize something. That is well, just dumb.