Feedback on Expert Recipes:

[Ryaz]

Definitely. I'm going towards that direction too... kicking RNG out of the question asap to secure the remaining quality.

Yep. You can still get screwed in the beginning (like getting 1 Pliant proc in 60 steps) when you're building stacks, but if you can get to 11 with a good amount of CP left, you can basically finish it off using Inno + Basic/Prudent/Prep Touches depending on what durability things you got rolling.

[Liam_Harper]

I find Focused fairly useful too, Focused Touch + Prudent is a 5 durability gain over Prep and a little more power.

For example, Strides -> Inno -> Observe -> Focus Touch -> Prudent x2 -> Strides -> Inno -> Prep -> Prudent -> Strides -> Brygots ...is around 47500 quality @2500 control for 296 CP/55 Dur. I'm sure there are better, but that one has served well.

[Ryaz]

I find Focused fairly useful too, Focused Touch + Prudent is a 5 durability gain over Prep and a little more power.

For example, Strides -> Inno -> Observe -> Focus Touch -> Prudent x2 -> Strides -> Inno -> Prep -> Prudent -> Strides -> Brygots ...is around 47500 quality @2500 control for 296 CP/55 Dur. I'm sure there are better, but that one has served well.

Speaking of Focused has anyone tried using that instead of Hasty when Centered is up? Though it'd definitely be a big gamble for 18 CP.

[BucklesTrespen]

Speaking of Focused has anyone tried using that instead of Hasty when Centered is up? Though it'd definitely be a big gamble for 18 CP.

I tried it a few times as a way to get to 11 stacks with more durability, but it eats your CP. I usually RS on blue until 1 careful synth away then use HT or simply ignore once I am at a Quality/CP threshold but need durability for finisher(s)

[Liam_Harper]

I prefer Reflect, it's just more consistent for me. Muscle Memory can make sense if you have plenty of mats or don't mind paying for however many you need, if you fail to land a Rapid on Ven/MM you can just quit and try again with little time lost. But Reflect gets you a very high rate of Max Quality anyway.
I don't use Veneration with Reflect at all personally.

Speaking of Focused has anyone tried using that instead of Hasty when Centered is up? Though it'd definitely be a big gamble for 18 CP.

Most of my Centered go towards Rapid, then I'll hope to reach a safe threshold. Gambling with 18 CP feels unnecessary for the small potential gain.

As for your Cul, remember you get something like 1200 points for max quality. Still a bonkers amount of time xD

[hqdm]

Speaking of Focused has anyone tried using that instead of Hasty when Centered is up? Though it'd definitely be a big gamble for 18 CP.

Ya, I'm not a fan of it after all. It's decent efficiency, but it's less useful in practice as it reduces the # of procs you can dig through, and I think getting red/green just outweighs it. I might use it once or twice if I'm ~10 stacks, but I think using more precise on red will fix that. Additionally, I tend to hasty when I need to make that gamble / low on cp, so efficiency kinda only goes so far. I think if I wanted to get a more efficient result I'd cut out rapid somehow, but without swapping to MuMe. On paper, groundwork still looks terrible though. Yesterday I had a craft that took 27 rapids to complete 3. It still ended up at ~6.1k due to a lucky delineation but cmon now.

[BucklesTrespen]

I find Focused fairly useful too, Focused Touch + Prudent is a 5 durability gain over Prep and a little more power.

For example, Strides -> Inno -> Observe -> Focus Touch -> Prudent x2 -> Strides -> Inno -> Prep -> Prudent -> Strides -> Brygots ...is around 47500 quality @2500 control for 296 CP/55 Dur. I'm sure there are better, but that one has served well.

I really like that finisher. I was using a slightly less efficient variant that required 16.1k quality with 51-60 durability but a bit more CP, around 314 i think. So thanks for the upgrade!

You're definitely right insofar that thresholds are what you gotta keep an eye out for, and having more than 1 is key because we all know RNG likes to throw us 10+ white orbs in a row, or no pliant or red until step 30 or failing centered rapid time and time again.

I'm curious to your opener; are you a Reflect or Muscle Memory type? I personally like Reflect but it comes with the caveat that after the veneration opener you could be at 10 durability with maybe 1 rapid successful...

I'd like to see how people create more efficient openers now that the finishers are beginning to make waves.

[Ryaz]

I've been focusing on culinarian... not interested in first place or anything, but want to be in the top 12 so I can relax after this week. The first place Cul on our sever gained over 193k points in one day. If he managed to hit 60k+ on every craft (which I doubt), thats around 241 crafts. At an average of 5 min per craft, that's 20 hour straight of crafting. Dude is either a beast or found a way to game the system. Lol.

Someone on Bahamut has over 2.3 million points in Alchemy. I'm not even sure how that's physically possible, even if you're crafting 24/7.

[Caimie_Tsukino]

Someone on Bahamut has over 2.3 million points in Alchemy. I'm not even sure how that's physically possible, even if you're crafting 24/7.

Beere Hellrot... 2,441,654... Not sure why she wanna do this much ALC though... Don't you just need 500K? :O

[testname]

Beere Hellrot... 2,441,654... Not sure why she wanna do this much ALC though... Don't you just need 500K? :O

I don't understand that too : o, its just 500k per one job. The person could cover 5 jobs already, and next week get mount : o at such speed