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    Scholar needs new dps actions and buffed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadeconl View Post
    Scholar needs new dps actions and buffed
    Scholar needs its heart and brain given back so that it just has some damn diversity and personality. But then on their current track, you could say that for half the classes they braniac'd in the expac lol.
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    Hi all,

    wanted to share my thoughts about the job as well.
    I am newcomer to ShB, main SCH, more of a casual player, but I aim to do good what I do.
    SCH is my favourite job, the idea of preventing and mitigating damage corresponds to me very well... but it definitely should be in many aspects reworked.
    My main claims are these three:

    Claim 1: as many have said in this very thread before, it would be nice to have some, at least minimal, DPS rotation. Not Bio > broil 3 > broil > broil > broil > ...

    Claim 2: Eos and Selene should act differently, otherwise it is just plain... weird. Why have two fairies when they are exactly the same?
    Or, if it _is_ just a glamour for fairy, then, I don't know... add 5-6 another coloured versions...

    And Claim 3, most important: after level 52 and Indom Scholar doesn't really get any new interesting healing spells.
    Almost all of the new abilities and mechanics are just extensions or augmentations of the old ones.
    Deployment/Emergency - are they new? No, they just improve efficiency of Adlo/Succor.
    Dissipation? No, it has no value on its own, it just gives you more Lustrates/Indoms/whatever.
    Excog - that one is new.
    Chain Stratagem - new, but rather plain and not healing.
    Aetherpact - 50/50, it is kinda new, but it really is just empowered micro-ed Embrace.
    Recitation - No, it just improves old spells.
    Fey Blessing - No, it is Indom No. 2.
    Seraph things - No, it is improved ol' fairy and Indom No. 3.

    Is there really no chance for some interesting, brand new healing mechanic? Is it so hard to think it up? I can imagine a lot of interesting variants right away. E.g.:
    - A healing/shielding spell that ticks when teammate moves, the more and faster the stronger the heal...
    - A spell that randomly places healing AoEs around, which activate and heal/shield upon touching them...
    - A spell that gives a fat chunck of shields but absolutely no healing...
    - An ability that for some time heals team to the % of damage you deal... or vice versa, that damages enemies to the % of HP you heal...
    - A healing spell with undefined cast time that will be cast when you move, and heals/shields proportionally to the time you spent on it...

    I don't want to say that I want exactly those, no. I'm just giving an example that tons of interesting spells still can be invented and introduced.
    They will require testing and balancing, of course - but I would like very much to see something like this on Scholar.

    And small additional Claim 4: why, oh why during the whole long ShB storyline, where a lot of content is associated with faerie folk, not a single darn cutscene is altered when you play Scholar? =( Not even a bit? Is it really okay, Square Enix? =(
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    Last edited by Kiarin; 06-06-2020 at 12:36 AM.

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    A question to the raiding Scholars in this forum: What use has Aetherpact in Eden savage? Or the fairy gauge in general? Beside the Fey Blessing I just dont get this Gauge to a good use in E6S. Beside that, Aether Pact just feels in general way too weak for being something like the ultimate skill in a Scholar's Toolbar.

    Dont you think that too ? Are you happy with Aetherpact/Fairy Gauge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talec View Post
    A question to the raiding Scholars in this forum: What use has Aetherpact in Eden savage? Or the fairy gauge in general? Beside the Fey Blessing I just dont get this Gauge to a good use in E6S. Beside that, Aether Pact just feels in general way too weak for being something like the ultimate skill in a Scholar's Toolbar.

    Dont you think that too ? Are you happy with Aetherpact/Fairy Gauge?

    Honestly, it has uses, but, I have to remind myself I have it. Most of the time it sits on full because I can't think of a good use for it.
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talec View Post
    A question to the raiding Scholars in this forum: What use has Aetherpact in Eden savage? Or the fairy gauge in general? Beside the Fey Blessing I just dont get this Gauge to a good use in E6S. Beside that, Aether Pact just feels in general way too weak for being something like the ultimate skill in a Scholar's Toolbar.

    Dont you think that too ? Are you happy with Aetherpact/Fairy Gauge?
    It's pretty solid to heal through autos, saving your cohealer the need to use their own regen. Am I happy with it? Don't know, I can't say that its complete garbage as it is kind of good but at the same time it could be slightly better than it currently is. I'm not quite sure if scholar needs more healing tools/power in its current kit.
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    This expanasion has been a mess. Astro should have gotten an AoE DoT too instead of butchering the other healer's kits. I would have really enjoyed getting a ground targeted Meteor Shower for Astro that functioned like the oGCD version of Shadow Flare. Something they could weave in for extra damage in single target and multi target scenarios. Scholar should have gotten Art of War in addition to Miasma 2 and all there DoTs and Bane so we actually have a rotation for AoE. We'd get Art of War at 45 and Meteor Shower and Miasma 2 could have been Heavenward abilities. WHM should have gotten a trait to turn Fluid Aura into an AoE attack as well at higher levels since they were so committed to keeping it but made it functionally useless for whatever reason. All the healers should have grown into better and more unique variations of playstyles but we went the opposite direction and made them all identically terrible.
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    Last edited by NobleWinter; 06-22-2020 at 03:16 PM.

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