Quote Originally Posted by Vendalwind View Post
I feel you personally. There are a number of classes that have struggled with identity fantasy, but it is hard to make everyone happy. I would love a full gunner/engineer class that was all tech.

This discrepency is common. Thus you have the people asking for a thief class, cause rogue->ninja strayed entirely from that and most of our new skills past 30 have been magic based. Its also an issue with bloodbath being weaker for us cause it doesnt work with magic attacks but wrong thread for that discussion.

Then theres the summoners who for a time felt too much like poison mages.

And the bards that would like some actual music magic instead of being snipers.

And the rdm who feel slighted by the exceptionally small amount of time they actively spend fencing

Its unfortunately an ongoing problem, but tbf square enix cant make a class for every single players ideal fantasy.
Thats true, but MCH is peak of bad design. Its simply not related to ishgardian Machinists at all. And devs kinda pretend they do. We even have title "Shot heard across worlds" even though at lvl 80 there is not a single action where we shoot our gun (the closest one would be Gauss Round, but its still not how real Machinists usually use their gun).
4.x was a disaster gameplaywise, but at least it was more lorewise accurate than now.
If devs have no idea what to do, i think connecting good parts of each iteration could lead us to something good.