Ranged DPS, choose a weakness that would justify a buff

[Akiudo]

I understand how basic statistics work, but it seems to me that you're just severely underestimating how much DNC dps can vary depending on luck of both procs and crit assuming that the rotation is correctly executed (which doesn't happen at lower percentiles). Balancing DNC and MCH around the average means that DNC will outdps MCH by a good 3% at the 99th percentile and that's the perfect way to kill MCH. Given how reliant DNC is on crit, I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of this tier, when all jobs are BiS, DNC will lead by a significant margin at higher percentiles. Actually, we already see how many people think MCH need more damage because they don't bring enough utility (compared to DNC)...of course they're wrong, MCH shouldn't be buffed if other ranged are kept as they are now, but making DNC much stronger than MCH when they're a little bit lucky and much stronger when they're very lucky is just asking to kill a job.

Then there are the other problems I mentioned that you keep ignoring. Nerf BRD and DNC multitarget damage, take away curing waltz, improv, minne and other such skills, make it so that all three jobs benefit from downtime in the same way instead of making DNC op when there's a lot of downtime and then maybe we can start talking about single target dps balance. You think MCH is "too strong"? I suggest you take a look at fflogs data for ultimate, the content that needs a good balance the most because it's the biggest challenge in the game right now.

i never said "balance them around the average" at least not in a "balance them around the 50% percentile level" or whatever way, you are conjuring things here, if anything i said "balance them in a way there is a tipping point that leads to some kind of equality" and "don't balance that tipping point around speedrunners", if dnc "on average" was 100 dps above mch at 99% that would kill mch for speedruns, so what, again we are talking a ridiculous small size of the playerbase here doing a thing not even "intendet" by the developers, (i highly doubt the devs will jump to the defense for some fflogs speedrun rankings), also i don't ask to make them "stronger when they are a little bit lucky" and "much stronger when they are really lucky" i ask to make them "a bit stronger with good/great luck, equal with "average" luck and worse with "bad" luck", instead of "a little bit better with the luck of the gods, worse every other case" again , the only people that care (and capitalize on that) are those that simply do so many runs till every single star in the universe aligns.

to your other points though, "not wanting to argue one of several points someone makes" is not the same as ignoring arguments, thank you.

but for all i care ? sure, go ahead, do all these things about support and multi dot potential and whatever that you wrote down, on support in general i'm ambivalent, i do think it is nice to have, i am willing to take a dps cut for it, i refuse to accept that the pittance of support bard has over mch is worth 700 or even 200 dps, if the balance team thinks the support bard has left should be worth more than 100 dps than for the love of god, please just take it away, aside from that i sincerely believe that the fact certain classes scale WAY better with 2 enemies than others is bad, like its fine for classes to have different strengths, but there being like 3 or so classes that can capitalize on something like that like theres no tomorrow while for everyone else its anywhere in the range of "oh yea nice, 50 extra dps for me" or "yeay, 2 enemies, these are worth absolutely nothing" is balancing cancer, especially if generally we don't have these kind of fight, in fact when ultimate came out i wrote a pretty lengthy post why and how bard single target dps could be buffed while bringing their 2 target potential more in line with other classes, sorry i wasn't singing you praise for this novel idea.