Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
You are going to sit here and tell me people actually use the alliance raid roulette for "fun"? At least copied factory gives me a token I can use to upgrade some deepshadow gear for a random alt class. Orbonne is just pointless in every way. Definitely not fun.
To be precise, all roulettes can be fun if one is lucky enough to end up with nice people in a random instance. The alliance thing itself just suffers a lot under being way too often the LV50 content - and the fact, that many players have zero idea how mechanics in any 24-people-instance work, doesn't help for the later raids.

Speeeaaaking about it:
Orbonne used to be my absolute favorite alliance-instance in 4.5 - especially when everybody got the hang of it. The runs were smooth and nobody rage-quitted.
But guess what happened when 5.0 came in. Suddenly, there were waves of people who had never done the Ivalice-raids before - because they were either returners who hadn't played for a long time or were entirely new players. And said people are the reason why clearing Orbonne turned out to be almost impossible (usual place to give up: Cidolfus) before SE permanently activated Echo for the instance.
That being said, I can still enjoy an Orbonne-run (even after said disaster in last summer) -- when people prove to me, that they either know the raid or are at least capable of understanding mechanics, that is.