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    Rasikko's Avatar
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    Rasikko Rakitto
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    Amaurot in design is fine, the main problem is your ilvl is synced to 430, so it's impossible to clear it fast. It should just be 470 like the rest.
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    Balmung
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    See I'd take Amaurot over the hell that was Toto-rak almost every day for several months back in HW. I still get irrationally annoyed any time it pops up in the roulette these days because of how many times the roulette plopped me in there back then - even though it's practically a brain dead affair these days.
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    Would it be a roulette then?
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Roulettes in general need more options, not fewer. (The only removal I'd be behind is the removal of EX trials from mentor roulette; they either belong in their own roulette or not at all.)

    Level 80 roulette right now is going to be weighted heavily toward Amaurot because it's the only dungeon in the bunch required for story.

    In general though, if the 80 roulette has a "1/3" chance of giving you a dungeon you don't want to run, you might be best off simply not running that roulette.
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    Saphir Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Would it be a roulette then?
    Yes, just like the trials roulette is still a roulette despite not including Amaurot. Letting players avoid specific dungeons isn't going to cause the entire system to collapse. Participation may even increase if people didn't have to worry about being placed in their least favorite content. If certain dungeons are really despised by the majority, a separate option could be added to the duty finder to prioritize queuing into first timer dungeons or unpopular dungeons in return for more XP/tomes/whatever.
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by PyurBlue View Post
    Yes, just like the trials roulette is still a roulette despite not including Amaurot. Letting players avoid specific dungeons isn't going to cause the entire system to collapse. Participation may even increase if people didn't have to worry about being placed in their least favorite content. If certain dungeons are really despised by the majority, a separate option could be added to the duty finder to prioritize queuing into first timer dungeons or unpopular dungeons in return for more XP/tomes/whatever.
    It's far more likely queues would become unbearably longer for certain dungeons than increase. If you could veto five dungeons from Leveling, I can all but guarantee which ones would be picked.

    Sastasha
    Copper Bell
    Toto-rak
    Tam-tara
    Aurum Vale

    And therein lies the problem. Four of them are story required, which means new players could be waiting hours. Amaurot would have a similar problem simply because of the ilvl sync.
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    Thea Sitori
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    You don't have to run a roulette, imagine that concept.

    So many ways to get tomes in this game now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    It's far more likely queues would become unbearably longer for certain dungeons than increase. If you could veto five dungeons from Leveling, I can all but guarantee which ones would be picked.
    What if you couldn't pick 5?

    And therein lies the problem. Four of them are story required, which means new players could be waiting hours. Amaurot would have a similar problem simply because of the ilvl sync.
    There are ways to get around this, I mentioned one in the second half of my quote. It's really only a problem in your example because the number of vetos you used is enough to cover all of the most unpopular dungeons, and that's assuming the dungeons you listed really are the only ones people would avoid. As with the Alliance Roulette, players will queue for leveling expecting different things. Some people only care about getting the reward, they might choose to skip The Vault or Doma Castle over Sastasha and Copper Bell.
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    Jasmine Clayworth
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    Spriggan
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    Blue Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    See I'd take Amaurot over the hell that was Toto-rak almost every day for several months back in HW. I still get irrationally annoyed any time it pops up in the roulette these days because of how many times the roulette plopped me in there back then - even though it's practically a brain dead affair these days.
    I got Toto-rak 8 times in a row leveling an alt. Luckily my party was understanding when I let a little grievance slip.
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    Shiru Elysia
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    What are you dying instantly at..?
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