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    Khalithar's Avatar
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Paladin Lv 100

    Fellow Paladins, have you heard of Atonement shifting?

    *I did not come up with this, this is from the Balance discord of which I am a part of*

    It's something I've learned about recently and not something I see a lot of paladins doing and just a further way of optimizing your damage rotation, I'm sure plenty of you have already figured it out, but it's not something that ever crossed my mind in the past. It's a minor DPS increase, but if you're looking to push your damage higher it's a good habit to practice. Essentially what it is, is fitting four atonements and two goring blades in a single FoF cooldown.

    With tighter gameplay and this new rotation I've definitely noticed an increase in my dps, so I figured I'd signal boost this a little just to help spread the word for my fellow paladins that weren't aware.

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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    How much skillspeed do we need for this rotation?
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    Cainhurst Alviritria
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    How much skillspeed do we need for this rotation?
    the same skill speed you need to fit the second goring Blade in the standar rotation fof window, so 2.40-2.42 is confy.
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    Jace Ossura
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    Was...Requiscat always unaspected? I thought it was physical in stormblood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    How much skillspeed do we need for this rotation?
    Edge said it, around 2.40-2.42 is fine. My current gear has me at 2.35 but bear in mind that's just from the gear I've obtained while boosting my item level, I'm nowhere near BiS though.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Was...Requiscat always unaspected? I thought it was physical in stormblood.
    I'm pretty sure it was, but it doesn't seem to be that way any longer.
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    Val Vermillion
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    I haven't raided for a while so i can't speak for that content but wouldn't this opener lose out on many boss fights? esp with the short time you have to do the last attonement? It does on a lot of dungeon bosses at least.
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
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    It doesn't matter if Requiscat is physical or not, it's there as the transition between the physical and magical phase of the rotation.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    Is indeed a really tigh window, you can view it as this:

    We have the standar loop and the optimized loop, you always have to start with the standar loop, once done that you can choose the next loop to be one of both, if we can keep full uptime during fof then we do the optimized, if not, we do the standard. Is like changing marches.

    It requires knowledge of the fight so is more of a optimizing mini game for when you have experience on it.

    Btw rq was phisical dmg during sb so you used it inside fof but as of shb is not affected by it.
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    Last edited by PeacefulEdge; 03-16-2020 at 07:30 AM. Reason: Phone writing is hard :0

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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by PeacefulEdge View Post
    the same skill speed you need to fit the second goring Blade in the standar rotation fof window, so 2.40-2.42 is confy.
    You can fit 10 gcds into FoF's 25s window with a no sks 2.5 gcd (it is enough to cover 2 Goring Blades with RA + Atx3 between). This rotation is more for when you have enough sks that you can start cramming 11 gcds into the FoF window. The main reason that the 4th Atonement is delayed until after Goring Blade is that ping, gcd and server ticks might cause the final Goring Blade to not get covered by FoF if you do GB->AT->RA combo ->ATx3-> GB combo rotation.
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    Aodhan O'finnegain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Was...Requiscat always unaspected? I thought it was physical in stormblood.
    It changed at ShB launch, this is why your first Fight or Flight is used just prior to Riot Blade, instead just prior to Goring Blade, as fof no longer affects Requiescat. If you are not using Atonement shift rotation, then you maintain using fof just prior to Riot Blade, with Atonement shift just prior to Goring Blade.
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