Quote Originally Posted by Cirque-it View Post
E5S = WAY too hard for a first boss end-tier savage encounter... there are people in there that are new to FF14, new to raiding, new to MMO's in general... They just hit lvl 80 want to get into Savage raids, end up in a party finder E5S encounter and have a horrific experience....
Working as intended. If they just hit lv80, are new to MMO's, new to raiding and want to leap straight into Savage they're doing it all wrong. It's a good thing the first boss checks them there and says plainly "you aren't ready yet". They should clear Normal, then step to EX and become comfortable there before even thinking of Savage. It's just a shame Enix doesn't offer any warning or indication that Savage is difficult content that needs preparation and knowledge of your rotation before they have that rough PF experience. Imo that's where the problem lies. Even BA in Eureka had a warning pop up when you unlocked it.

I'd say Eden is tuned perfectly. Recently I took my casual FC (for people with Social anxiety), who most had no experience in Savage at all, into E5S. We're digging through E7 now and looking forward to E8. Progress isn't super fast but it's steady and great fun and filling the wait for the next patch nicely. Don't you own an FC yourself? What's stopping you doing the same instead of suffering through PF?