As a dungeon runner...

[Silverquick]

The number of enemies have nothing to do with your power in the story. You go to a dungeon and kill whatever gets in your way. If you want, you can think that the rest ran away after seeing you kill their friends.

You are trying to tell me that after fighting near god like beings, you can come back down and get beat up by a couple of ogres.

No man, its the same thing as it was in Dungeons and Dragons. There's a point to where you have to accept that the only way normal monsters will be able to beat you is if there's a ton of them... and then only maybe.

You can either be Human... or super human... you cannot be both and expect it to be believable.

Ironically this is also why the standard 8 man raids/trials don't make sense anymore because they just poof you to the end boss without ever having to fight his legions. At least in the old Alexander raids, they tried to simulate this somewhat in the run up which made it feel like you were traversing a long running metal hulk to get there and one of the Boss fights is actually just hordes of minions attacking you.

But the bottom line is... you are not human anymore, you passed that back in ending days of Heavensward.

[linay]

You are trying to tell me that after fighting near god like beings, you can come back down and get beat up by a couple of ogres.

You don't get beat up by a couple of ogres. The story has never had you fail a dungeon yet.

None of what you said has any relevance to the story.

[Silverquick]

You don't get beat up by a couple of ogres. The story has never had you fail a dungeon yet.

None of what you said has any relevance to the story.

Not the point I was making.

I said... in order to provide a realistic scenario that fits the context of how powerful the characters really are at this point you are going to need the mass mob spam.

I know you WANT it to be otherwise, but the latest Dungeon really shows why it is not and cannot be.

Its a joke and why it failed to really grab anyone even though the coolness factor is there.

The characters are just too powerful for that kind of thing anymore. And ramping up the power of the Trash mobs only makes them just another boss mob fight and not very credulous.

In the other prior dungeons not only are the trash mobs a threat due to numbers... but they are a believable threat too.

[linay]

Not the point I was making.

I said... in order to provide a realistic scenario that fits the context of how powerful the characters really are at this point you are going to need the mass mob spam.

I know you WANT it to be otherwise, but the latest Dungeon really shows why it is not and cannot be.

Its a joke and why it failed to really grab anyone even though the coolness factor is there.

The characters are just too powerful for that kind of thing anymore. And ramping up the power of the Trash mobs only makes them just another boss mob fight and not very credulous.

In the other prior dungeons not only are the trash mobs a threat due to numbers... but they are a believable threat too.

Again, none of that has anything to do with providing a realistic scenario. We go to these dungeons as part of the story, not because they have enemies that are "worthy" of our power.

[Mansion]

The characters are just too powerful for that kind of thing anymore. And ramping up the power of the Trash mobs only makes them just another boss mob fight and not very credulous.

In the other prior dungeons not only are the trash mobs a threat due to numbers... but they are a believable threat too.

You're putting far too much meaning into it really. As interconnected they can be, gameplay and lore will never be the same thing. As Linay says, you go to X dungeon because the story tells you to, that's it.
Even more so, the WoL is a powerful adventurer indeed, but not so God-like as you think. Some job quests do make you think you're kind of unique to some extent, but our super power is being strong against Primals. Against other things... not much more than any adventurer really. That's why we are helped by adventurers, Trusts or CHAMPIONS FROM THE RIFT in most cases.