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    Player JamieRose's Avatar
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    Reduce the insane spawn timers on S marks.

    Is it really necessary to make everyone wait 4 days to spawn an S mark on top of the numerous and equally insane requirements to get them to pop. I've been trying to get to Udumbara for 3 months now and every time it spawns I'm asleep. I don't really see any benefit to having a spawn time that's so egregiously long. It's not like these marks give that much in terms of currency.

    If you want to keep them "rare", fine, but is there any realistic reason to have the spawn more than 24 hours at a time? (Even that seems ridiculous to me, but hey I'm willing to compromise.)

    C'mon Squeenix, this is ridiculous.
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    I think the timers for S ranks are just fine.
    If anything, some of the ARR S ranks should have longer CDs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquilmelody7 View Post
    I think the timers for S ranks are just fine.
    If anything, some of the ARR S ranks should have longer CDs.
    May I ask why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    May I ask why?
    For many players across all servers, spawning S ranks is a core gameplay loop in FF14.

    Hunters, you could call them I suppose.
    As I hunter, I personally enjoy chipping away towards S ranks that are available to spawn when I have time, sometimes with my friends.

    We spawn, relay, slay and then wait for the shiny rare monster's next spawn cycle.

    The several day wait is an integral part of the spawning process remaining enjoyable for me.
    If any S rank could spawn every day, that would not only make the rare mobs feel far less special but it would disrupt the balance of working towards the S rank achievements.

    Take the aforementioned Udumbara for example: it's spawn condition requires 100 Leshys and 100 Diakkas to be killed.
    Pretty taxing effort, no?

    On the opposing side of the Spectrum, let's look at the S rank for the peaks - Bone Crawler.
    Spawning it requires the chocobo porter to be rode in the area.
    This can be accomplished in mere moments by barely even paying attention.

    Some S ranks are far easier to spawn than others, and I feel S has achieved an intricate balance in regards to working towards S rank achievements.
    After the easy ones have been killed, hunters can work towards spawning the more taxing S ranks, all we wait for the next cycle so we may be ever closer to earning those coveted achievements.

    Personally, I... just like spawning S ranks and become thrilled when I successfully spawn and see one.
    I love taking the time to 'host' rare content that numerous players can reap the rewards of, even if I may end up waiting days for an opportunity to do so.

    I also find the S rank monsters fascinating - rarely seen monsters that only live for minutes after someone worked to make them appear, yet living much in the memories of people who spent great deals of time to spawn them.

    Having all S ranks spawn on a daily basis would utterly destroy my attachment to the hunt as an activity and I would likely just subsequently quit the entire game.

    If I wanted to work towards spawning monsters that could pop up multiple times a day, I'd dive into Eureka 0:
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    Are you trying to spawn it or only waiting for someone else to do it and call it? Engaging in cross world hunts? Udumbara is currently open on Balmung, Brynhildr, Diabolos, Goblin and Malboro. Go try spawning it.

    I would also like a definition for “insane” spawn requirements.
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    I'm curious whey are you so interested in S ranks? Seems the hunt community is a lot more in to 16/16 SHB A rank trains that the S ranks themselves. Various discords will ping you when various hunts are up and available and personally I don't see any problem with the S rank spawn timer.
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    Player JamieRose's Avatar
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    I'm trying to get the achievements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    I'm trying to get the achievements.
    What's worth achieving if not the near unobtainable?
    Don't ask to make things easier, work to get them more efficiently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    What's worth achieving if not the near unobtainable?
    Don't ask to make things easier, work to get them more efficiently.
    I don't really understand how you conflate insanely long spawn timers to difficulty. That's not difficulty, it's just time gating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    I don't really understand how you conflate insanely long spawn timers to difficulty. That's not difficulty, it's just time gating.
    Of course it's time gating. It's an MMO, time gating is what this does best.
    However there's better ways to go about it than asking for an easier time than anyone before you.
    Jump servers, help them with their S ranks. There's hunt communities out there that'll tell you what server on your data centre is spawning what.
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