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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    If we're going the "souls of people we know correspond to other people we know" route...

    G'raha Tia is a fragment of the original Hythlodaeus.
    I adore this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    If we're going the "souls of people we know correspond to other people we know" route...

    G'raha Tia is a fragment of the original Hythlodaeus.
    Apparently I am not alone in this theory of mine. I wrote a long thing on this, and though being a wild guess, I am sticking with it for now. Not to mention it would be quite emotional and poetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMeowth View Post
    Apparently I am not alone in this theory of mine. I wrote a long thing on this, and though being a wild guess, I am sticking with it for now. Not to mention it would be quite emotional and poetic.
    You've put so much more thought into this than I did! I was just thinking "yeah, that'd be a neat little parallel" - for the most part I don't like the idea of making a long list of "A must be another shard of B because of [random trait]" but I just liked that particular idea.

    To play devil's advocate on the "shush" gesture, the first time in the scene with Ran'jit is probably just that. It's not the same animation (he's holding up his left hand not his right), although the two examples from 5.3 may be. We also conspicuously did some variant of that gesture ourselves as the closing shot of Shadowbringers before the credits rolled.

    Definitely an interesting thought though, particularly since the two apparently-matching ones happen close together and alongside us learning about our own past self.

    I like your thoughts on the past-present-future composition of the trio and the artwork as well.

    On a point of detail: 8/14 soul fragments is actually the standard number - the original Source fragment and seven from rejoined shards. G'raha and the WoL currently have 9/14.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    On a point of detail: 8/14 soul fragments is actually the standard number - the original Source fragment and seven from rejoined shards. G'raha and the WoL currently have 9/14.
    Gah! I am terrible at numbers. Well, that would mean that with the Seventh Umbral Calamity everyone in the Source turned more Ancient than sundered, and above them all stand the WoL/D and G'raha. Just food for thought.

    It is a bit hard to keep track of everything I have been writing these days so it is not surprising I made some mistakes or failed to catch some things. My brain is brimming with theories and connections and I have been writing meta for three weeks now. I want to rip my brain off. I want to sleep. ;;
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMeowth View Post
    Gah! I am terrible at numbers. Well, that would mean that with the Seventh Umbral Calamity everyone in the Source turned more Ancient than sundered, and above them all stand the WoL/D and G'raha. Just food for thought.
    Yeah, your theory is fine - G'raha and the WoL definitely both have one more soul fragment than everyone else - it's just that the exact number you stated is off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMeowth View Post
    Apparently I am not alone in this theory of mine. I wrote a long thing on this, and though being a wild guess, I am sticking with it for now. Not to mention it would be quite emotional and poetic.
    That was a beautiful read. <3
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    I have a head canon that in the zodiac braves relic weapons, the historical weapon you restore doesn't end up destroyed and just goes to a museum or whatever after you go to the steps after it.
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    A new headcannon of mine is the two blonde Jester ladies are the 1st's version of Yda and Lyse. They're bothe blonde sound and look the same. That and the one wearing red gives you a sly smile after you first meet them.
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    Another one:

    The monstrosities we fought in the Amaurot dungeon (1st and 2nd Doom, Therion, etc.) were originally fought by Azem and Hades during the actual Final Days, and that's why he chose these foes as the WoL's final test. Though we triumphed, we did not perform nearly as well as Azem did, thus why Emet-Selch remains unconvinced of our worth.
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