Smoking emote.

[Reinha]

I could imagine it fitting other games but FFXIV has an overall aesthetic that's colorful and family friendly. Emotes that perform self harm on our characters would seem off.

[Mavrias]

I could imagine it fitting other games but FFXIV has an overall aesthetic that's colorful and family friendly. Emotes that perform self harm on our characters would seem off.

Except for all the death, war, alcohol, drug use, the strip club in eulmore, human trafficking, child soldiers, prostitution, the npcs who can be already seen smoking.

Yeah. Totally family friendly.

[Vahlnir]

Except for all the death, war, alcohol, drug use, the strip club in eulmore, human trafficking, child soldiers, prostitution, the npcs who can be already seen smoking.

Yeah. Totally family friendly.

lol...yeah, the game isn't what I would call family friendly in every aspect, but by MMO standards it is still pretty tame. It just has a few dark elements.

[Gula]

I'd like this, but I know why it wouldn't be added.

There are children that play this game after all. T for Teen, but I consider teens children. Public health and wellness is taken differently in different countries and in the States, there are anti-smoking ads everywhere from billboards to radio. Glamorizing smoking is not good, and while not the intent- it's impressionable.

Also, many NPCs aren't smoking fogweed, but Somnus since it can be taken at the pipe. You can RP your WoL doing the drugs, but Japan sure as heck isn't going to instill that.

Except for all the death, war, alcohol, drug use, the strip club in eulmore, human trafficking, child soldiers, prostitution, the npcs who can be already seen smoking.

Yeah. Totally family friendly.

Those are from antagonists and people you're guided to be against though. WoL isn't carrying off children to serve as Buduga soldiers.

[Mavrias]

I'd like this, but I know why it wouldn't be added.

There are children that play this game after all. T for Teen, but I consider teens children. Public health and wellness is taken differently in different countries and in the States, there are anti-smoking ads everywhere from billboards to radio. Glamorizing smoking is not good, and while not the intent- it's impressionable.

Also, many NPCs aren't smoking fogweed, but Somnus since it can be taken at the pipe. You can RP your WoL doing the drugs, but Japan sure as heck isn't going to instill that.



Those are from antagonists and people you're guided to be against though. WoL isn't carrying off children to serve as Buduga soldiers.

Dang man, i didnt know all those npc's in tomra and the Buscaroon's Druthers and every other tavern in gane were all antagonists. You're right though, the drinking should have tipped me off. But, dang, didn't realize Kai-Shiir and all buddies were bad guys. Or that lalafell npc in Fallgourd Float. Or literally every npc in Tailfeather.

[Edax]

I'd like this, but I know why it wouldn't be added.

There are children that play this game after all. T for Teen, but I consider teens children. Public health and wellness is taken differently in different countries and in the States, there are anti-smoking ads everywhere from billboards to radio. Glamorizing smoking is not good, and while not the intent- it's impressionable.

Too late for that, smoking is already in the game.

They're referring to how it is in real life. People have gotten cancer from living with smokers or working in a place that allows smoking. And I suppose a smoke emote could be seen as endorsing such behaviour. Someone drinking next to you cannot affect your health.

We kill people by the thousands in this game, that's worse than cancer. Is killing thousands upon thousands an endorsement of mass murder? Sometimes killing people can affect your mental health, does that mean killing should be banned from this kid friendly game?

[SweetestLily]

Too late for that, smoking is already in the game.


We kill people by the thousands in this game, that's worse than cancer. Is killing thousands upon thousands an endorsement of mass murder? Sometimes killing people can affect your mental health, does that mean killing should be banned from this kid friendly game?

This^. Some people's inability to disconnect real life from this game is jarring. It's like me using the drinking emote, going into a dungeon and healing poorly, then blaming it on being drunk. Hell, with that logic we wouldn't even have a drinking emote in the first place because drinking in public is illegal.

[Penthea]

We kill people by the thousands in this game, that's worse than cancer. Is killing thousands upon thousands an endorsement of mass murder? Sometimes killing people can affect your mental health, does that mean killing should be banned from this kid friendly game?

Our characters kill out of necessity. Aside from something like medical marijuana no one smokes out of necessity. Smoking is typically a vice, not something a person must do to fight for their country, etc.

This^. Some people's inability to disconnect real life from this game is jarring. It's like me using the drinking emote, going into a dungeon and healing poorly, then blaming it on being drunk. Hell, with that logic we wouldn't even have a drinking emote in the first place because drinking in public is illegal.

I can disconnect from it, I even said I wouldn't mind such an emote. I just wanted to point out that allowing an emote like that come to the game could be seen as SE endorsing it. Though like I said earlier we already have an ashtray furnishing with a lit cigar. We're kind of halfway to the emote I guess.

[Awha]

Our characters kill out of necessity. Aside from something like medical marijuana no one smokes out of necessity. Smoking is typically a vice, not something a person must do to fight for their country, etc.



I can disconnect from it, I even said I wouldn't mind such an emote. I just wanted to point out that allowing an emote like that come to the game could be seen as SE endorsing it. Though like I said earlier we already have an ashtray furnishing with a lit cigar. We're kind of halfway to the emote I guess.

Necessity in what way? I know of people that simply cannot function with a vape pen or smoke in near by / take a hit often throughout the day. Just because something is a vice does not mean it cannot become a nescessity for a person.

Granted, I get where you are coming from.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

Our characters kill out of necessity.

Yeah, right.
NPC: "You there! Go over to that boat, kill everyone there and burn their supplies. I'll give you a shiny sea shell for the deed"
WoL: *stoic nod*