Smoking emote.

[Aurikai]

Oh wow, one of the first threads I ever posted in.

Shame it got buried under a bunch of moral grandstanding about how gross and icky cigarettes/pipes are and "I don't like it therefore it shouldn't be in the game" reasonings. Despite the fact that plenty of NPCs can be found casually lounging around with a pipe in their hand.

Welcome to FFXIV, we'll tolerate murder, genocide, subtle and not-so-subtle mentions of r*pe (shoutout to The Hole found in Sastasha, the very first dungeon of the game), alcohol use, and prostitution, but draw the line at the sight of a puff of smoke coming from a stick.

There's a huge difference between the insinuation of the act, and outright doing it or witnessing it.

[Renalt]

There's a huge difference between the insinuation of the act, and outright doing it or witnessing it.

The insinuation of the those particular acts are far worse than actually seeing someone smoking.

[MikkoAkure]

Edit: not that i'm complainin' or nothin'. It would just look silly for a cowboy to smoke through a long slender pipe.

Yippy ki yay, omae.


Also, there are other NPCs in the game since ARR who have been smoking a long pipe in Eorzea so that seems to be the preferred way to smoke in the west.

Koh/Noah from the Crystal Tower quests is constantly holding their pipe in Rev Toll. I also remember a Lalafell miner in North Shroud west of Fallgoard Float who has the same emote. There are probably a few other scattered NPCs doing the same emote in ARR zones.

SE eventually gave us NPC emotes like shiver and sweat but at this point if we don’t have this one, we may never get it. While I hate smoking irl, I personally don’t have a problem with it in-game but can understand why they wouldn’t implement it. Strange thing is though is that I’m pretty sure the game is already rated for tobacco use.

[Kozh]

Hate smoking in RL, but I support adding smoke emote in game. It's particularly good for RP reason.

[UkcsAlias]

It's particularly good for RP reason.

The problem here is that its currently a widely undesired action because of the health and addiction downsides. In such way RP shouldnt promote that behaviour either. If it is promoted ingame, then it might still cause people to start smoking 'because its cool'. Dont underestimate the influence of this.

In an 18+ game, i wouldnt care as much, but in this case the game is suitable for lower age, and promoted as such. Thats why im still against.

Sure, if a character was already smoking, they can at least preserve that, because having them smoking all of a sudden often feels strange.

Although i have to say metal gear solid series did an excelent job at that part (they were very lighthearted about it the entire time, but at the same time the entire story has a very big emphasis on its downsides, up to a state that in mgs4 it realy shows the health problems, which along with other causes make it even more amplified). But at the same time, they remained accurate (even in mgs5, although that story is incomplete). But i would say this is one of the very rare cases where the way they did this just worked very well. In too many cases devs just make the character stop out of nothing (which isnt realistic and would imply its not addictive even). But tahts why its good that devs at least arent making new characters heavy smokers.

[Raoabolic]

SE: Smoking bad, m'kay?
Also SE: *puts in beer steins and a /toast emote*

Like I said, it's the little things that make me laugh, lol.

[Doc_Seraph]

Kupo <3 I would love to toke on some magical kupo herb

Kupo <3 if somebody is getting upset over an emote like smoking or drinking you should have another discussion with yourself kupo <3

World is not all snowflakes and rainbows, people work they need some escape and dopamine. Let them have fun kupo <3

[Avoidy]

Sounds cool. If you hate the health implications, don't use it. It's 2022; nobody who smokes is laboring under the belief that it's good for them.
The emote needs to LOOP though. We have so many emotes in this game that should loop but don't. Like /read for example. Why do I read for 5 seconds and then immediately put the book away? It should loop. Imagine if we get like, a pipe smoking emote similar to Yotsuyu's movements, but you only smoke for 4 seconds and then you put it away. It'd be so bad lmao.
Anyway, I'm sure we'll get it soon. Maybe SE will partner with Marlboro for a Malboro themed cigarette adventure, and if you purchase a pack and send in the receipt you'll get a /smoke emote!

[UkcsAlias]

Maybe SE will partner with Marlboro for a Malboro themed cigarette adventure, and if you purchase a pack and send in the receipt you'll get a /smoke emote!

Never gonna happen. The moment any tabaco company advertises in a game like this, they and SE will be sued to such insane state it wont be profitable. If smoking happens no company is allowed to be attached to it. Smoking advertisements are already illegal acros many platforms in many countries.

Coupled sales on that (even if internationaly) also are not allowed. Your package bought in country X, must then not be accepted when you are in country Y. Not just that, other players using the emotes in this case ALSO are then not allowed to have that rendered, because the coupled sale is still an advertisement mechanic. Even if there is no way for you to obtain it, it can still promote vpn usage to obtain the emote, and using that method get people to buy a pack.

The laws against advertising for any tabaco company are extremely strict, and in most cases go cross border. For example any USA show that also advertises towards EU users, without actively being shown in the EU, will still result in fines/bans for the company advertising. And it goes that far that it even applies the the parent company of those companies.

You can be sure that SE doesnt want to get into this mess. So the only real option would be having it obtainable though f2p and brandless. And potentialy still get fined.

[Bobby66]

Smoking emote please, if you are worried about the health impacts just say it is not tobacco but something only found in FFXIV that has no negatively impacts in the flavor text.