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    Quote Originally Posted by Whichi View Post
    its not better. it costs you too much damage to be good sorry i just disagree. its simply "okay" and will stay in the same spot its been in since STOrmblood its rarely used because its not good in most situations theres just always a better option.



    That isnt HPs that is healing which includes shielding. Overheal wouldnt be that huge of a difference in a 17 minute fight. Also yes scholar for every single patch in every expansion until shadowbringers was the king of healing done and now its not so im not sure where you're getting that from lol the fairy was extremely broken.
    Yeah, your arguement was invalid the moment you said its staying in the same spot it was in stormblood. Even if the mitigation goes to waste its 600 potency every 30 seconds at only a small potency cost. Even if the heal goes to waste its group mitigation available every 30 seconds at only a small potency cost.

    Which again, if sacred soil does enough healing/mitigation to prevent the cohealer from having to pop a gcd heal, then it made up for up to double the potency loss of not using the energy Drain. This fact also applies to excog and Indom if they arent used with Recitation. Just because there's free mitigation from other classes doesn't inherently nerf the value of sacred soil, infact it can stack with the mitigation AND heal the party.

    Plus you keep forgetting that every Aetherflow heal has an additional 375ish single target heal and/or 225ish aoe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    Yeah, your arguement was invalid the moment you said its staying in the same spot it was in stormblood. Even if the mitigation goes to waste its 600 potency every 30 seconds at only a small potency cost. Even if the heal goes to waste its group mitigation available every 30 seconds at only a small potency cost.

    Which again, if sacred soil does enough healing/mitigation to prevent the cohealer from having to pop a gcd heal, then it made up for up to double the potency loss of not using the energy Drain. This fact also applies to excog and Indom if they arent used with Recitation. Just because there's free mitigation from other classes doesn't inherently nerf the value of sacred soil, infact it can stack with the mitigation AND heal the party.

    Plus you keep forgetting that every Aetherflow heal has an additional 375ish single target heal and/or 225ish aoe.
    Im not forgetting anything energy drain also applys to faerie gauge not just healing actons.. Plus my point saying that its going to stay in the same spot as stormblood means that it was rarely used. The point is that it is not NEEDED theres always something else that will get the job done better. Also you will RARELY get every player to get all ticks of soil for the full 600 potency or there will be overheal because you want to mitigate something. The point is anytime you think you can use "sacred soil" The reality is that there is a better cheaper option that isnt sacred soil. Lilys star any astro off gcd recitation abilites fairy skills. Sacred soil is just not needed. Even when i run shiva SAVAGE the hardest current fight as SCH i never use any atherflow healing(aside from recitation indoms or excogs) because its not really needed. its just extra and totally wasteful causing you to lose damage in most scenarios.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    Which again, if sacred soil does enough healing/mitigation to prevent the cohealer from having to pop a gcd heal, then it made up for up to double the potency loss of not using the energy Drain. .
    it's not double the potency lost Energy drain is 150 potency glare the absolute highest healer offensive GCD is 300 so no its not "more thandouble" its exactly half. and since energy drain is an OFF gcd its actually an even bigger deal



    I'm not even saying sacred soil is like the worst thing ever or something. I HONESTLY believe that soil is fine as is its a very niche ability that has some unique uses but VERY few. The current problem with scholar is that i have to lose damage to cast every off gcd i have. why do i have to cast my 6 faerie spells??? whispering dawn previously was amazing at the end of stormblood and now i have to lose damage to cast like 6 fairy buttons? not to mention fey blessing + tether dont work wiht seraph so its extremely clunky in that i'd have to reapply it or it gets cancelled or even worse sometimes seraph just straight up EATS my spells?? thats so awful. These spells are also not even like spectacular they're so mediocre where is my earthly star spell? Earthly star is crazy powerful and doesnt have any real clunk or jank with it like scholars mediocre fairy spells that make me LOSE damage everytime i want to cast them.
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    Last edited by Whichi; 03-08-2020 at 11:50 AM.

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