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    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    Unless people screw up badly, have vulne stack all over or you drastically need extra mitigation because you won't have enough time to heal through (maybe, several massive aoe idk it rarely happen), recitation is better on indom, or excog.
    Mitigating is healing that won't be necessary to do. But if you will need to heal anyway, cause damages were huge, maths are simple, but a 375 potency crit is of course worse than a 400 potency crit (indom). If the party doesn't die from the hit, or if succor alone is enough, indom is the way to go for recitation if you didn't use it on excog.
    It's more intersting if you can deploy from the tank of course, but since galvanize is being eaten before catalyze.. in dead time after a cutscene maybe.
    But that was one of the reason soil were not that good. The damage prevention was not enough to spend a AF on when you could just indom instead (or even ED because that was totally not needeed).
    As for sacred soil, there are situations where the damage prevented can be greater then the damage healed by an Indom. Iirc there was a situation in the weapons refrain where that's the case. In most cases however, you'd be right.

    I always deploy my shields off myself. Sure I may miss putting a critlo on the tank but at the same time it not only allows me to position myself to where it hits the most people but also to keep the shield from being eaten by boss autos.

    Tbh now I'm confused. In all my years of playing mmos I've always heard mitigation is always stronger then healing. While I get it in some situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    Tbh now I'm confused. In all my years of playing mmos I've always heard mitigation is always stronger then healing. While I get it in some situations.
    Can't speak for other MMOs, but in XIV shield potencies are always inferior to direct healing. This knowledge is little known tho I think, which is also the reason ppl go nuts if you play diurnal AST when paired with a WHM even tho it's perfectly viable if the fight does not require any shielding to survive mechanics. (Which is 90% of all fights in this game btw)

    The only unique thing shields actually bring to the table is the increase of effective HP, which makes you survive a mechanic that would otherwise kill you. Beyond that they are plain useless, because direct heals are stronger and cheaper.
    So if you know that your party can survive damage without shields, don't apply them but rather use heals/HoTs afterwards.


    This is for high level play tho. If you go with PF a lot you might want to shield everything to make sure the monkeys errrr, I mean teammates don't die to avoidable damage or vuln debuffs or whatever.
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    Last edited by AmeliaVerves; 03-04-2020 at 09:44 PM.
    I don't know, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    As for sacred soil, there are situations where the damage prevented can be greater then the damage healed by an Indom. Iirc there was a situation in the weapons refrain where that's the case. In most cases however, you'd be right.
    Indeed. I know about that. Niche uses unfortunately. But yes.
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