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    That's just nonsense to deceive yourselves.


    It's been said many times by other people that FFXIV's dev team is the one creating the Chinese and Korean DLCs.


    I'm sure Square Enix would not allow their clients to create content for SE's own games and then have to license it!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaOZ View Post
    It's been said many times by other people that FFXIV's dev team is the one creating the Chinese and Korean DLCs.
    Even if SquareEnix's art and dev team were to do the modeling—which admittedly would probably remove the "yikes, that clipping" from the list of possible reasons they wouldn't bring it over, if the clipping's entirely their own fault—that does not mean the designs to be turned into 3D content aren't being given to them by Shengqu or Actoz. Which could easily still attach licensing fees depending on how the contracts are set up.

    If they were making the content from scratch themselves without any Shengqu or Actoz involvement in the design and absolutely no other factors invoved, then there's zero reason for region exclusivity especially when it would mean SquareEnix's own version of the game would lack the content they've worked on; SquareEnix are demonstrably more than willing to reuse/repurpose existing work—how many times have we seen former crafting gear become new dungeon gear or vice-versa?—and for them to suddenly consider the regional exclusives 'special cases' that must remain regionally exclusive not only makes very little sense from a business standpoint, but goes against previous behavior we've seen from SquareEnix.

    Prior to my massive burnout on crunchtime, when I still worked in the games industry, our Japanese publishing partner handled the localization of a game we made. The game was our work, and as part of the publisher support the contract entailed I even worked with the person at the publisher to get the localization data finalized and in place. But the publisher still had the rights to the actual Japanese localization data files; if we'd wanted to go to a different publisher in Japan and re-release the game, we would've needed to redo the localization rather than just taking their work and walking off to a competitor.

    So regardless of the actual process of development for any given region-exclusive content, based on both SquareEnix's own past behavior and personal experience, I stand by the belief that there's likely a contract scenario where the region-specific content is owned by the regional operators. It could be because Shengqu and Actoz are generating the content (whether or not SquareEnix is finalizing the actual development of it), or because the contract has something about not competing with your own customer written in—like that the regional content has to stay exclusive in order to provide an incentive for, say, Korean players to play on the Actoz servers rather than on SquareEnix's global ones (because if they go to play global they can't get the Exclusive Content)...

    Well, the end result would remain the same. In either scenario, SquareEnix needs to ask that the content be made available to them.
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    Last edited by Packetdancer; 03-07-2020 at 05:13 AM.
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    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
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    Not really exclusive.... if everyone gets it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    Not really exclusive.... if everyone gets it.
    Absolutely! It's more the fact that many other exclusives have been added throughout the years from both the China and Korean games, so was merely asking if we could expect to receive this one at all - and if there had been any news on it? (As 3 years is a long time )

    Thanks PacketDancer for your description! Interesting read...we have had other exclusives over from Korea, however, so it would seem weird for Actoz to only have licencing issues with certain outfits (unless they are paired with some designer promotion, or specific company promotion, which this may well have been as I can't even seem to find the name of the dress, let alone more information regarding it). I would also assume that SE would still have overall power - but again, as you said, it's kind of impossible to tell the real reason without having a member of SE comment themselves. Hopefully it is just the fact it maybe hasn't been spoken/hyped about as much in the 3 years since its initial release. Still, thanks for your detailed answers - definitely food for thought

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkMasamune View Post
    It's like wearing an entire tent. Where's the circus ?

    Joking aside, I think the dress looks absolutely lovely and would totally wear it. Too bad it looks goofy when sitting on the ground... and probably on a mount too, but meh.

    It's so nice, isn't it? Sitting down isn't actually too bad (just that pose where you sit with your legs in - not sure if other races have that aside from female au ra and lalafells, though?) - and yeah, maybe with mounts... but then again, it's easier to list dresses that DON'T clip with mounts than those that do haha!
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    Last edited by Ryannex; 03-08-2020 at 11:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryannex View Post
    It's so nice, isn't it? Sitting down isn't actually too bad (just that pose where you sit with your legs in - not sure if other races have that aside from female au ra and lalafells, though?) - and yeah, maybe with mounts... but then again, it's easier to list dresses that DON'T clip with mounts than those that do haha!
    Yeah, you got a point there. So it really wouldn't matter if it clips throught mounts lol. All dresses do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkMasamune View Post
    Yeah, you got a point there. So it really wouldn't matter if it clips throught mounts lol. All dresses do.
    Honestly one fix that ewould help is allow there to be a /cpose for mounts. The side saddle pose is already in the game with the wedding chocobo and some races sit like that on the ARR primal ponies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alestorm View Post
    Honestly one fix that ewould help is allow there to be a /cpose for mounts. The side saddle pose is already in the game with the wedding chocobo and some races sit like that on the ARR primal ponies.
    Taht would actually be a great idea. We already have a /cpose when sitting on the ground and on chairs, sofas, etc, so why not on mounts ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    Not really exclusive.... if everyone gets it.
    No way... you're joking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    No way... you're joking.
    I understand the exclusive argument... but also we have various Chinese and Korean exclusives that have already been released (and it also requires no effort as it's just handed... and purchased with real money).
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkMasamune View Post
    Yeah, you got a point there. So it really wouldn't matter if it clips throught mounts lol. All dresses do.
    Exactly, and most things clip awkwardly regardless nowadays, especially with tails/hairstyles. As it's likely to be released mogstation side (if released at all that is,) so people have the choice of buying if they don't mind a bit of clipping.
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