Korean Exclusive Dress from 2017... when?

[REPROBEAN_CHILD]

Why? If you don't like it, don't buy it. The clipping only majorly happens during certain sitting poses anyway (and even then only for specific races/genders).

Many outfits in this game clip as it is (especially with hairstyles, which wouldn't be an issue for this piece.) Just because you don't like the clipping in one specific sitting position for one specific race/gender, doesn't mean people who want it still shouldn't have the option to buy it. Just a lazy excuse in my opinion

Besides... do you think these outfits should be removed? :

Yes. Burn it all

[Avidria]

Why? If you don't like it, don't buy it. The clipping only majorly happens during certain sitting poses anyway (and even then only for specific races/genders).

Many outfits in this game clip as it is (especially with hairstyles, which wouldn't be an issue for this piece.) Just because you don't like the clipping in one specific sitting position for one specific race/gender, doesn't mean people who want it still shouldn't have the option to buy it. Just a lazy excuse in my opinion

Besides... do you think these outfits should be removed? :

Yikes, that hat is awful. How did that get past QA? At least THAT should be fixed. I mean come on.

Clipping with hair is also a bit different than clipping with your character's body... You can cut your hair shorter, but the game doesn't let you chop off your arm. I'm not opposed to them adding this stuff of course, but it really does look terrible... I'd hope they could find some way to make it at least a bit less terrible before adding it though. :/ If not more power to em I guess, I definitely wouldn't buy it though

[LLSmoothJ]

tbh if they did add it I might buy it just for the shoes...

Agreed. If the shoes were stand-alone, I would not even bother with the dress.

[Ryannex]

I hope this gets added, it looks so pretty for sure!

It really does! And as other people have mentioned, the shoes themselves are also a really unique design!

I just hope Square will release it/be able to release it. Someone mentioned earlier that China/Korea exclusive outfits are often created by external companies and whatnot (or the individual SE branches), which could create legal issues in terms of release and sharing -- but I'm clueless with that!

Just surprised that 3 years from release we still have no word on this, and more recent exclusives have been added before this

[Packetdancer]

Someone mentioned earlier that China/Korea exclusive outfits are often created by external companies and whatnot (or the individual SE branches), which could create legal issues in terms of release and sharing -- but I'm clueless with that!

To clarify, there are three separate versions of Final Fantasy XIV running (i.e. with entirely different account and subscription systems, handled by different companies).

1. The 'global' version we here all play with the NA/EU/JP datacenters, run by SquareEnix. This is the main version of the game, run by the developers themselves.
2. The version of the game in China, run by Shengqu Games. Shengqu licenses the game code and content from SquareEnix to run their own copy of it with their own account system and servers. SquareEnix has no involvement in the running of the Chinese version, but as the core codebase updates with new features and content, those are provided to Shengqu.
3. The version of the game in South Korea, run by Actoz Games. Like Shengqu, Actoz just licenses the game code and content from SquareEnix to run their own copy of it.

My understanding is that the China-exclusive items are added to the game not by SquareEnix but by Shengqu; the Korea-specific ones are similarly created by Actoz. As a result, the content isn't SquareEnix's to use unless Shengqu or Actoz gives it back to them. (This would also presumably be why China and Korea have separate bits of exclusive content, as Actoz would also have to license China-exclusive things from Shengqu and vice-versa.)

To give an analogy, it's like if Company A makes a car, and Company B buys the car from Company A and then makes aftermarket modifications to it and then sells the modified/upgraded car to the general public. Company A can't say "you have to give us those modifications to put into the cars ourselves" (unless they wrote some sort of draconian terminology into the contract that anything you do to Company A's cars becomes the property of Company A). If Company A wants Company B's modifications, they're now going to have to go to Company B and ask to buy or license those modifications back in return.

Demonstrably, SquareEnix is willing to go to the table to negotiate to get to use some of the content Shengqu or Actoz make for their respective cash shops when people demonstrate there's a demand for it in the global version; we've gotten other exclusives made global before.

Why this specific set hasn't been pulled over? Presumably only SquareEnix (and maybe Actoz) know the reason. Maybe Actoz got the content from someone else and they don't have the rights to sell it on to SquareEnix. Maybe they're asking too much for the content and SquareEnix doesn't want to have to pay for it. Maybe SquareEnix looked at the clipping on that dress and went "Yikes, no."

Either way, it's not like SquareEnix makes the content and then hoards it to only be available in one region.

[BunniEclair]

I’m here for this getting added just for the shoes as well. I’d love a plain heel like that that has no socks attached.

[SigmaOZ]

That's just nonsense to deceive yourselves.


It's been said many times by other people that FFXIV's dev team is the one creating the Chinese and Korean DLCs.


I'm sure Square Enix would not allow their clients to create content for SE's own games and then have to license it!.

[Packetdancer]

It's been said many times by other people that FFXIV's dev team is the one creating the Chinese and Korean DLCs.

Even if SquareEnix's art and dev team were to do the modeling—which admittedly would probably remove the "yikes, that clipping" from the list of possible reasons they wouldn't bring it over, if the clipping's entirely their own fault—that does not mean the designs to be turned into 3D content aren't being given to them by Shengqu or Actoz. Which could easily still attach licensing fees depending on how the contracts are set up.

If they were making the content from scratch themselves without any Shengqu or Actoz involvement in the design and absolutely no other factors invoved, then there's zero reason for region exclusivity especially when it would mean SquareEnix's own version of the game would lack the content they've worked on; SquareEnix are demonstrably more than willing to reuse/repurpose existing work—how many times have we seen former crafting gear become new dungeon gear or vice-versa?—and for them to suddenly consider the regional exclusives 'special cases' that must remain regionally exclusive not only makes very little sense from a business standpoint, but goes against previous behavior we've seen from SquareEnix.

Prior to my massive burnout on crunchtime, when I still worked in the games industry, our Japanese publishing partner handled the localization of a game we made. The game was our work, and as part of the publisher support the contract entailed I even worked with the person at the publisher to get the localization data finalized and in place. But the publisher still had the rights to the actual Japanese localization data files; if we'd wanted to go to a different publisher in Japan and re-release the game, we would've needed to redo the localization rather than just taking their work and walking off to a competitor.

So regardless of the actual process of development for any given region-exclusive content, based on both SquareEnix's own past behavior and personal experience, I stand by the belief that there's likely a contract scenario where the region-specific content is owned by the regional operators. It could be because Shengqu and Actoz are generating the content (whether or not SquareEnix is finalizing the actual development of it), or because the contract has something about not competing with your own customer written in—like that the regional content has to stay exclusive in order to provide an incentive for, say, Korean players to play on the Actoz servers rather than on SquareEnix's global ones (because if they go to play global they can't get the Exclusive Content)...

Well, the end result would remain the same. In either scenario, SquareEnix needs to ask that the content be made available to them.

[DarkMasamune]

Depends on your definition of worse, I guess.

It's like wearing an entire tent. Where's the circus ?

Joking aside, I think the dress looks absolutely lovely and would totally wear it. Too bad it looks goofy when sitting on the ground... and probably on a mount too, but meh.

[Vespar]

Not really exclusive.... if everyone gets it.