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  1. #41
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    You leave my whisper a-go-go out of this =(
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  2. #42
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    Amon Kujaku
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    Sometimes I just like to hang out and explore in the various areas. Each time, there's either barely anyone there or no one there post expansion/patch. As others mentioned, there are things to do like gathering, hunting, fates, beast tribes, sightseeing log, and so on. But one can just hang out there with friends or self, too. The areas are gorgeous. Why not enjoy them simply for that if nothing else interests you?
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    I won't be coming back to FFXIV's forums. The forum vibe is way too venomous and brings out the worst in me. I don't like who I am on the forums, so it's best to distance myself.

  3. #43
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    Elai Khatahdyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malmstrom View Post
    And yet you also continue to consider the possibility that there are some people that don't need to do the things you are doing. Not want. Need.

    Some of us are level capped on everything. That's a giant chunk of open world time that we no longer need to engage in. What are we going to do? Grind FATEs for mats that don't sell or items we already have? And what tomestones? The beast tribe ones? The quests that take a few minutes to complete and then you're done? Or are you referring to maps, where it's jump from one spot to another between zones until you get your instanced treasure vault?

    My point is that once you're done, that's it. What's the draw to the open world when you have done everything each zone has to offer? Stand around and take screenshots? Fly around in circles and gather the thing that the bots will tank the price on immediately?

    ...

    I'm not sure how else I can emphasize that I wish there was more open world content. Perhaps it's just that my definition of what that would be is different than what everyone else's is.
    I feel very sorry for you if you only ever do stuff that you NEED to. I mean, I don't NEED to play this game, but I want to. You clearly don't grasp the concept of doing something just because it's enjoyable. I mean I don't NEED to go out in the open world in RL either, I can just use my very basic mount to get to work (which is clearly an instance) and then back home again and stay in bed all weekend. But I don't do that because there are things in the RL open world THAT I ENJOY DOING. I know, how weird is that ...

    I don't NEED to gather mats, but I enjoy it. I don't NEED to do beast tribes, but I enjoy it. If I don't enjoy things (like roulettes) I don't do them. But there are enough things I do enjoy in the game that I continue playing it. If you don't have things you enjoy doing, maybe you should go play something else for a while?
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    Last edited by Elladie; 03-02-2020 at 12:51 AM.

  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukiiyuki View Post
    >Open world
    You tried, kek
    Also, most mounts are ugly af or just look dumb. Like, flying bed and variety of chairs, sometimes it feels like you're too big for a mount. Still waiting for flying toilet that does fart sounds while in air, that would be great idea on par with bed.
    And there no armory to check them all, no mount drops from dungeons, literally 7 recollors of the same mount. As someone told, WoW did it better, you should check it out, it even have mount showoffs.
    And yeah, people should understand that 14 love silly stuff and don't care about any immersion
    Odd because I've always found it much easier to immerse myself in this world than WoW. Maybe it's the silly stuff isn't so immersion breaking and in many cases, is appropriate, given the game's ability to mix down-to-earth serious plot with something more relaxed and sillier plots and even more ludicrous ones like the Manderville questline. So I'd argue that some of the sillier stuff is plenty fitting. Even if, they're pretty loose, but immersion is often more about how things are delivered if anything.

    Nier on the other hand, I'd understand any argument to say that it doesn't fit, but we're not all the way through to see how they're trying to make that one work. But luckily is a side thing.

    On the chairs and beds...Matoya already enchants her brooms, which Matoya did in the very first Final Fantasy game. Enchanting a chair or a bed in a world with a heavy use of magic would not really be that much of a stretch if somebody though it'd be fun to enchant. It's dumb, sure, but people like being dumb sometimes, both in a fantasy world and the real world. I'd expect it's something a Sheogorath type character from TES would do.

    People using it as their mount out in the world and seeing lots of these dumb mounts? I find a lot of the time people roaming the world is rarely a part of the immersive experience in an MMORPG. Because somebody could be just teabagging another person in the street with the guards just watching all like, "this is perfectly acceptable behaviour" and people then running around proclaming to be Ugandan Knuckles. Then a hundred people in super edgy demonic armour atop big dragons casually hanging out in Stormwind like its any other day. This I think is just something you block out if you're looking for an immersive experience in an MMO.

    But what's not fitting is Gaia's lips. She doesn't look like she belongs. That'll I'll happily concede to.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukiiyuki View Post
    >Open world
    You tried, kek
    Also, most mounts are ugly af or just look dumb. Like, flying bed and variety of chairs, sometimes it feels like you're too big for a mount. Still waiting for flying toilet that does fart sounds while in air, that would be great idea on par with bed.
    And there no armory to check them all, no mount drops from dungeons, literally 7 recollors of the same mount. As someone told, WoW did it better, you should check it out, it even have mount showoffs.
    And yeah, people should understand that 14 love silly stuff and don't care about any immersion
    Omg YES I LOVED not getting mounts for years and years on end We should totally expect people to run savage and trials for 5-6 years to get the mount! Wonder why they didn't think of doing that with FFXIV!

    /s

    (also fyi, there is a dungeon mount)
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  6. #46
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    Avi Taro
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukiiyuki View Post
    >Open world
    You tried, kek
    Also, most mounts are ugly af or just look dumb. Like, flying bed and variety of chairs, sometimes it feels like you're too big for a mount. Still waiting for flying toilet that does fart sounds while in air, that would be great idea on par with bed.
    And there no armory to check them all, no mount drops from dungeons, literally 7 recollors of the same mount. As someone told, WoW did it better, you should check it out, it even have mount showoffs.
    And yeah, people should understand that 14 love silly stuff and don't care about any immersion
    WoW has absolutely no recolored or silly mounts
    None whatsoever. Nope. Definitely not.
    Lmao

    I mean I love collecting mounts in WoW way more than here, but come on dude :P Blizz has been reusing assets and adding silly joke crap since before FFXIV existed
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    "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Elyas Machera, The Wheel of Time

  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Ahh, another "this game doesnt give me exactly what i want in the open world, so therefore, theres nothing to do at all in the open world and its all pointless" Malmstrom thread.
    I mean OP is right though - If anything the open world has gotten LESS importance over the years.
    Back in Coils and Alexander, you even had to go to the area in the open world to enter it - You had people setting up what amounted to food and pot flee markets outside of the raid entrance, you had people shouting for groups and it was the perfect place to ask for help with strats. Now though? You just open up the duty finder.
    The open world features we have are fine for the base game, the base games maps aren't all that big but each area had a purpose - The expansion zones though, outside of gathering, you may only go to once or twice a week once you've finished with the story.
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    2.0 Veteran from 2013. Just looking to be helpful. DRK is Love, DRK is life.

    (Ignore the levels on my character card, the tool i used to make it hasn't been updated for 4.0)

  8. #48
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    I feel like this could also be said of a lot things in game.
    Housing?
    Minions?
    Gold saucer?
    Fisher?!
    Old content?
    Old beast tribes?
    Current beast tribes?

    Just because you don't doesn't mean someone doesn't and that it doesn't add to game.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malmstrom View Post
    ... if there is no reason to be out in the world flying them?

    No reason... so if I can list 1 reason to be out in the world for 1 second, then the point of this thread is gone?
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  10. #50
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukiiyuki View Post
    >Open world
    You tried, kek
    Also, most mounts are ugly af or just look dumb. Like, flying bed and variety of chairs, sometimes it feels like you're too big for a mount. Still waiting for flying toilet that does fart sounds while in air, that would be great idea on par with bed.
    And there no armory to check them all, no mount drops from dungeons, literally 7 recollors of the same mount. As someone told, WoW did it better, you should check it out, it even have mount showoffs.
    And yeah, people should understand that 14 love silly stuff and don't care about any immersion
    If you like WoW so much, I hear its still in service and guess what, you can go play it! I don't think I've ever seen you post a positive thing about XIV, so why are you here?
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