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  1. #71
    Player
    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Chie_M View Post
    + Peloton
    + Mobs die fast
    + LB is used as something other than a sparkly finisher
    The advantage to using it as a finisher is that no one suffers from the self-stun of LB's movement and uptime lock. With that lost uptime, it's no more efficient than your highest dps just continuing to do what they do, and may actually be worse than, say, the returned burst of a SAM, or a BLM finishing a fight with AF.

    That said, if the team's AoE damage is less than 75% per target than its single-target damage, which it almost always is, it is at least better to finish an AoE pull with LB than to finish off a boss. Moreover, some healer GCDs of damage might be saved by using the LB early enough to overkill as few mobs as possible, more quickly removing whichever mobs were least lucky against crits and reducing tank damage taken.
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  2. #72
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    Kaiserdrache's Avatar
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    Merridyll Cailleach
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 80
    I commend DPS when

    - the player doesn't die, this means the player isn't blind or a total doofus and means the player knows the games content that is played at the moment
    - when the DPS isn't undergeared and uses Materia well
    - when the player knows what top priority targets are and doesn't need to be told like a little child when what has to be attacked in which order to help out tank/healer and as result make instanced content much smoother.
    - when DPS uses support skills INTELLIGENTLY at correct moments and doesn't spam them out, just because it's usable right now, skills like Brotherhood, Troubador ect.
    - when DPS makes good player responsive targeting switches and is able to adapt their target switchings based on which Job the other DPS is/are and uses Burst Damage Skills not on Targets, that are likely to be killed by a ranged simple skilll rotation of the standard attack skills
    - when they can in case of Redmages save the day and are required to make the content due to incompetent healer in the group and they actively help healing n rezzing, without needing to remind the player first that his job can do more, than dealing only damage...
    - if I absolutely like the name and visuals of the character
    - if the player teaches things n helps others to get better in doing in general their DPS part in the game's content.
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  3. #73
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    Krojack's Avatar
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    Character
    Avellin Adorel
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 100
    When they move out of telegraphs and dodge things. This means most Black Mages don't get my comms..
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  4. #74
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Vancouver, BC
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    The advantage to using it as a finisher is that no one suffers from the self-stun of LB's movement and uptime lock. With that lost uptime, it's no more efficient than your highest dps just continuing to do what they do, and may actually be worse than, say, the returned burst of a SAM, or a BLM finishing a fight with AF.

    That said, if the team's AoE damage is less than 75% per target than its single-target damage, which it almost always is, it is at least better to finish an AoE pull with LB than to finish off a boss. Moreover, some healer GCDs of damage might be saved by using the LB early enough to overkill as few mobs as possible, more quickly removing whichever mobs were least lucky against crits and reducing tank damage taken.
    In dungeon final boss fights as RDM I will always let the other dps use the LB unless I know I'm doing less than or roughly equal to the dps they are doing. Most fights will be over by the time the nation lock ends anyway by the point I give up waiting on a melee to use it, and the caster one is pretty pitiful vs single target. If the other dps is clearly doing far less damage than me then it really pains me to use the LB l, especially if they're melee, and will often not use it. The weaker dps, if there's a significant disparity, should use it otherwise most of the impact of it is lost since your main damage output is animation locked for multiple GCD.

    I will use it on the last trash pull of a dungeon if it is a full pull, my Moulinet spam isn't going to be available for the fight... and I actually remember. I've never had anyone yell at me for it, although I have had a couple people chat "..." after I've done it which I just ignored.
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  5. #75
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    -Magnai-'s Avatar
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    The Dawn Throne [Azim Steppe].
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    Character
    Magnai Oroni'r
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 81
    I commend a DPS if:

    - they're baby (a fellow sprout) and did a great job in the run
    - they're friend shaped
    - they clearly be smashing that keyboard
    - they give me hugs because "oh hey! this NPC is cool so I'm gonna hug him!"
    - yes
    (6)
    Live by the Sun, love by the Moon~

  6. #76
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    Rasikko's Avatar
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    Rasikko Rakitto
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by Krojack View Post
    When they move out of telegraphs and dodge things. This means most Black Mages don't get my comms..
    *Switches main back to BLM and transfers to Excalibur*
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  7. #77
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    Anienai's Avatar
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    Camp Bluefrog
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    Character
    Anienai Talenca
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 100
    If they are a ROE.
    (1)
    The price of solving everything is everything.
    Quote Originally Posted by Illmaeran View Post
    Roe, no question. Why be a kitten when you can be a goddess?

  8. #78
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    Lium's Avatar
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    Character
    Brielle Artemus
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    On DPS, I usually comm the other DPS, especially if a DNC makes me their dance partner or a DRG used Dragon Sight on me. I’ll comm the healer if they saved me from certain death because I was having a moment where my brain decided to stop working, or I just flat out forgot a mechanic.

    Case in point: there was this one healer in Grand Cosmos who Rescued me over to the last piece of furniture during the blue fire mechanic because I wasn’t going to make it in time. That was clutch and they most definitely got my comm.

    On healer, I will commend the DPS if I didn’t notice them. Seriously. I can’t remember which dungeon it was, but there was this BLM who I didn’t have to heal once. Not even a Regen. Only time they needed a heal was during group wide AOE. Made my job so much easier and less stressful.
    (1)

  9. #79
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    Delis's Avatar
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    Character
    Mari Yumishi
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by -Magnai- View Post
    I commend a DPS if:

    - they're baby (a fellow sprout) and did a great job in the run
    - they're friend shaped
    - they clearly be smashing that keyboard
    - they give me hugs because "oh hey! this NPC is cool so I'm gonna hug him!"
    - yes
    What is friend shaped?
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  10. #80
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Delis View Post
    What is friend shaped?
    The best shape for cookies for fiendishly evil people.
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