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    TheGrimace's Avatar
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    Knives Jonquil
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    I hesitate to take any poll seriously that would place the personality void of Kimahri Ronso so high on the list.
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    Rael Levynfang
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    Man, no love for Barrett Wallace? He was honestly one of my favorite characters from FFVII.
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    Anienai Talenca
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    Merlwyb Bloefhiswyn is not on the list.

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    The price of solving everything is everything.
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    Roe, no question. Why be a kitten when you can be a goddess?

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    Amon Kujaku
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    I looove Zenos. He's FF husband #3 (#1 being a certain warrior /eyes/, and #2 being Raubaaaaaahnnnn)
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    I won't be coming back to FFXIV's forums. The forum vibe is way too venomous and brings out the worst in me. I don't like who I am on the forums, so it's best to distance myself.

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    Esther Harper
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    I tend to have a fondness for antagonists IF they are well-written. But Zenos is just too bland and one-dimensional. He's just constantly hooting about his hunt, how empty our existence is and how we need to fill it with violence and exciting battles to feel alive.
    But I can absolutely get behind antagonists like Gaius, Emet-Selch or Regula whose actions and mindsets, if seen from a slightly different point of view, are understandable and perhaps even justified.
    They don't have to be right when seen from a bigger perspective, but they can still be understandable when seeing from a perspective that is not the WoLs in case of FFXIV.

    I can absolutely see why Gaius saw the need to conquer Eorzea. From his perspective, it was a chaotic realm, constantly in disarray with too many different cultures, races and mindsets to ever be able to work together, unable to deal with primals and internal conflicts. And he was right to a certain degree. It was only after having their very existence threatened that all city states worked so closely together that they could realize a large scale military operation to face that threat.
    I can also get behind Regula's thoughts. Neither were mindless killers and destroyers. They weren't evil guys sitting in a dark room and cackling manically at the impending complete destruction of a realm. They were both explicitly against needless destruction.
    While Emet-Selch's actions weren't right, they were also understandable when seen from an Ascian's point of view.
    Those were antagonists I can easily get behind and I'm glad that at least one of those three still lives. Would have loved to see more of Regula...

    The dislike for Zenos outside Japan doesn't stem from hating antagonists in general. Zenos is just a particulary bland antagonist that took up way too much screentime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
    The dislike for Zenos outside Japan doesn't stem from hating antagonists in general. Zenos is just a particulary bland antagonist that took up way too much screentime.
    Well I think a lot of it is because Zenos is fake as hell as some kind of "powerful bad guy".

    The first two encounters with him just kinda make the whole thing so cheezy. Its the "you're not allowed to win" type so they cheeze it. It makes the whole thing come across as fake as hell. So half way through you're looking at Zenos going... you're a fraud man.

    Hell at least Gaius seemed menacing while standing in front of a huge Ultima when you first encounter him after Garuda. But you never had any cheezeball encounters with him the entire time in ARR.
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    Carby Adalena
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    Siren
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    I wish I had a context for the full list and how long it is as well as how many characters were in the poll so I know how to feel about this. Because if there were only 200 then this is like... 70-somethings not that high, it just means they somewhat like him and is probably the same fraction of people who like him in NA.
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    I'm from 1 MS in the future.

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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    I refuse to believe that Penelo is more liked than Fran.
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    Oniwori Kiyuromi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    I refuse to believe that Penelo is more liked than Fran.
    Keep in mind this was only based on JP votes.
    So the NA and EU FF Fan base that can't speak japanese most likely didn't vote so this is mostly a japanese ff fan opinion only.
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    I'septha Tayuun
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    Faerie
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    Bard Lv 80
    when i first started hearing about people hating Zeno i was confused. Zeno is by far my favorite villian in ff14
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