Trying to understand player behavour with MB & MSQ dungeons

[Alleo]

Just remember that skipping MSQ cutscenes is against the ToS and can be reported. The cutscenes are here to give people a chance to get the whole experience. For that you get a lot of exp and other stuff. Doing "magic" (as someone ones called it) to skip them and then end the dungeon faster is bad for those that dont because they will get cutscene after cutscene with no fights while the cheaters will get their higher rewards..

[LalaRu]

...an item sells to a npc merchant for 200 gill, they put it up on the MB for 100 gil. That's a complete loss...

Nope, that is assured more Gil for me buying from the board and selling to npc. Happens with higher priced items too, and I'm totally fine with it!

Especially with people that forgot to add one '0' at the end...

[DumdogsWorld]

2. Equally as idiotic or ignorant. These players either don't care or don't know that their retainer can take care of the transaction right there and then.

Well, that's a bold thing to say. It's not always about the gil.

Before I got all my crafters to 80, I would craft 30 HQ level 1 items per week for the challenge log. I mean, it's free exp for like 5 minutes of effort. But then what do I do with the 30 HQ iron ingots or whatever that I just made?

I make sure that somebody else uses them, rather than deleting them. I give them away. And the MB doesn't allow zero-gil listings.

Sue me.

[Arcadimas]

As a new player that just hit 50, the questline requires you to run these. Not wanting to be the low person that held everyone back, I was prepared to skip the scenes, if necessary. It was a relief when I saw that you couldn't skip them. There was some people in chat wishing the scenes could be skipped but the most geared person in the group spoke up and said it's unfair to new players. It left the impression that if I'm in that situation, I'll gladly watch them again so a new player can experience it.

[Valorak]

Yeah I occasionally put stuff on the MB for really low prices. My intent is to give new/lower level players a chance to buy gear or mats on the cheap.

I'd probably do it more if I knew that new players (or at least someone that's going to use it) are the ones buying the gear instead of some MB capitalist that's just reselling it at a higher price.

[Kamatsu]

Nope, that is assured more Gil for me buying from the board and selling to npc. Happens with higher priced items too, and I'm totally fine with it!
Especially with people that forgot to add one '0' at the end...

I'm talking about the seller - it's a complete loss for them, as they are selling it for less than they'd make selling to an npc merchant, as well as paying tax on the sale so even less!
Obviously for ppl who buy it and sell to an npc or relist it, it'll be profit for them.

As for Alleo's comment - indeed, it's why I've not done it. Considering the times I've come across it being done... hasn't generally speed things up, I just never saw the point (once cutscene's were unskippable) to doing so... risk your account being suspended to save a few minutes? Pffft.

[Fawkes]

1. It's like when you're driving down the road and somebody speeds past you, and then at the next stoplight you're right behind them. Some people just gotta go fast even when it's not actually that much more fast.

2. I have no idea why this happens, I can only assume it's new/uninformed players selling things.

[van_arn]

Because some people think the MSQ cutscenes are garbage and they were bribed to attend that roulette for the rewards. As long as the rewards persist, the skipping won't stop. If the rewards are removed, MSQ instantly becomes the least popular roulette. Square loses either way due to their poor upkeep of this content. You can't control them due to the incentives.

As for people undercutting, they're doing what they want because they want to. You don't need to understand them; they do what they want. You have no control over them.

[SinisterJoints]

Because some people think the MSQ cutscenes are garbage and they were bribed to attend that roulette for the rewards. As long as the rewards persist, the skipping won't stop. If the rewards are removed, MSQ instantly becomes the least popular roulette. Square loses either way due to their poor upkeep of this content. You can't control them due to the incentives.

As for people undercutting, they're doing what they want because they want to. You don't need to understand them; they do what they want. You have no control over them.

the op literally said "im not talking about undercutting"

The op is referring to someone selling an item on the Marketboard for 100gil when they can turn around and sell it to a vendor for 200gil instead. The OP is questioning why people do this. To which someone already posted its pretty dumb lol (i mean lets face it, it is lol)

[Moonlite]

When you first post an item and you see the default vendor price the listings are probably higher. When you see the price has dropped and you pick a new price you might not reconfirm the vendor price and just drop it. It takes about 30 to 45 mins to go through all MB listings check current prices and check vendor price. The system is not very user friendly. Anyone who says it shouldn't take that long one only has a few listings or two isn't checking prices very well IE selling for below vendor price.



I also highly doubt you are seeing stacks of 99 below vendor price.They had to farm 99 of those that took a little effort. But venture items that also seem quite common took almost minimal effort and less concern over the actual profit ratio. The sky gear that vendors for 1k can go below 500 gil. It is worthless to desynth it is worthless to wear and retainers bring a lot of it back.


What I would like to see is the below vendor stuff all bought up and cleared off the board. The board has enough listings as it is. And no I don't mean the cheaters that use third party tools that scan MBs and buy up everything to vendor it. That is the only type of cheating I haven't seen in this game. Maybe because the system is so slow to interface with.