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    Jojoya's Avatar
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kamatsu View Post
    Hope this is the right place for this, but I'm trying to understand some players behavours regarding both marketboards as well as the lvl 50 MSQ duneons.

    1. MSQ dungeons "skipping" cutscenes.

    Not a point about whether they should or shouldn't be skippable, I know this is a touchy issue. Curious as to why some people do what they do to still skip cutscene's in the lvl 50 MSQ queue dungeon.

    I'm curious, because I've timed it... and when it happens it shortens the run by 2-3 minutes generally (and this with groups that are clearing the fights fairly quickly). I honestly don't see the point in going to the length's they do to save 2-3 minutes.

    2. Marketboard selling under merchant prices.

    I can understand undercutting people (and no, I'm not asking this because I've been undercut lol), even extreme undercutting... heck, even the ppl who sell at the auto-price which is merchant price. What I don't understand is why ppl would sell a significant amount of stuff under the amount they'd make selling to a npc?

    IE. Say an item sells to a npc merchant for 200 gill, they put it up on the MB for 100 gil. That's a complete loss... and I'm not talking about 1-2 items, I'm talking about lots of 20-99 in multiple batches.

    Are these bots/ppl trying to kill the market for these items so they can then control them? ie majorly undercut, then when ppl stop selling because no profit... yank the price up to high level's... and hope the profit from doing this is greater than the profit if they'd just sold 'at market level'?
    The real cutscene skippers are shaving off far more than a couple of minutes. One of my alts was in a Praetorium group with 3 players cutscene skipping and it took 12 minutes off the usual clear time for me as soneone who was watching the cutscenes. Those 3 players had killed Lahabrea before the second Ultima Weapon cutscene had even finished so for them it shaved probably close to 20 minutes off the instance. It was a miserable experience when the rest of the group was denied the chance to participate in the fighting.

    Merchant prices are random prices picked by SE and have nothing to do with free market values which are influenced by many things. There are a considerable number of items I can make for fair less than the random price SE picked. By pricing under the merchant price, I can get you to buy that item from me instead of you going to the merchant to buy it. I'm still profiting from the sale.

    If you don't like the price others are setting for an item, don't sell that item. Sell something else.
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    Espritduo's Avatar
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    Esprit Libre
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    Mateus
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    By pricing under the merchant price, I can get you to buy that item from me instead of you going to the merchant to buy it. I'm still profiting from the sale.
    Except you're not really? You're losing profit by not selling the thing you crafted for below vendor price directly to an NPC. I understand charitable people that just want to help others by listing items below vendor price, but that is literally the only logical reason to do it. If you think you're somehow making more money by selling something below vendor price....I uh...got no words.

    EDIT: Re-re-reading your post I think you are confusing the price the NPC is selling the item for the price we sell it back to them. That is what is being referred to here.
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    Last edited by Espritduo; 02-27-2020 at 11:47 AM.