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    van_arn's Avatar
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    Van Arn
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    Goblin
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Because some people think the MSQ cutscenes are garbage and they were bribed to attend that roulette for the rewards. As long as the rewards persist, the skipping won't stop. If the rewards are removed, MSQ instantly becomes the least popular roulette. Square loses either way due to their poor upkeep of this content. You can't control them due to the incentives.

    As for people undercutting, they're doing what they want because they want to. You don't need to understand them; they do what they want. You have no control over them.
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    SinisterJoints's Avatar
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    Lunafreya Valentine
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    Jenova
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    Because some people think the MSQ cutscenes are garbage and they were bribed to attend that roulette for the rewards. As long as the rewards persist, the skipping won't stop. If the rewards are removed, MSQ instantly becomes the least popular roulette. Square loses either way due to their poor upkeep of this content. You can't control them due to the incentives.

    As for people undercutting, they're doing what they want because they want to. You don't need to understand them; they do what they want. You have no control over them.
    the op literally said "im not talking about undercutting"

    The op is referring to someone selling an item on the Marketboard for 100gil when they can turn around and sell it to a vendor for 200gil instead. The OP is questioning why people do this. To which someone already posted its pretty dumb lol (i mean lets face it, it is lol)
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    Moonlite's Avatar
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    Midnight Falcon
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    When you first post an item and you see the default vendor price the listings are probably higher. When you see the price has dropped and you pick a new price you might not reconfirm the vendor price and just drop it. It takes about 30 to 45 mins to go through all MB listings check current prices and check vendor price. The system is not very user friendly. Anyone who says it shouldn't take that long one only has a few listings or two isn't checking prices very well IE selling for below vendor price.



    I also highly doubt you are seeing stacks of 99 below vendor price.They had to farm 99 of those that took a little effort. But venture items that also seem quite common took almost minimal effort and less concern over the actual profit ratio. The sky gear that vendors for 1k can go below 500 gil. It is worthless to desynth it is worthless to wear and retainers bring a lot of it back.


    What I would like to see is the below vendor stuff all bought up and cleared off the board. The board has enough listings as it is. And no I don't mean the cheaters that use third party tools that scan MBs and buy up everything to vendor it. That is the only type of cheating I haven't seen in this game. Maybe because the system is so slow to interface with.
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    When you first post an item and you see the default vendor price the listings are probably higher. When you see the price has dropped and you pick a new price you might not reconfirm the vendor price and just drop it. It takes about 30 to 45 mins to go through all MB listings check current prices and check vendor price. The system is not very user friendly. Anyone who says it shouldn't take that long one only has a few listings or two isn't checking prices very well IE selling for below vendor price.
    The vendor price is listed directly on the item information though. You don't need to go back to check.

    I think a large portion of badly-priced marketboard items are because people don't understand that the initial price is the sell-to-NPC price and not a recommended starting price. And then people try to undercut all the other people that put their items up at that not-actually-recommended price...



    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    The sky gear that vendors for 1k can go below 500 gil. It is worthless to desynth it is worthless to wear and retainers bring a lot of it back.
    The Sky Rat gear is actually pretty good to pick up if you've just hit Lv60, especially if you don't have enough tomes or access to Idyllshire yet. It's cheap and it has the same stats as early Stormblood gear.

    I've made a few glamours with it too. Mostly the gloves and boots.

    Sky Pirate gear is even better for glamour, and far cheaper than the replica items if you want to use it for its designated class.
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    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Dirt-cheap Sky Rat gear was fantastic for quickly leveling desynth skill.

    I see people sell Materia, escpecially Demimateria way below vendor price everyday. Even if counting in market tax you can make a lot of easy profit by just buying it in bulk and selling it to the NPC right next to the market board. You can see at a glance how much an item is worth when selling it to the NPC so it's basically zero effort.
    But just like visiting another server to save 500k on an item people generally don't bother with any sort of extra effort even if it is well worth the time spent. Same with people buying mats you can get at NPCs. Yak Milk, Linen Yarn/ Cloth etc. are famous examples for items that are generally sold for 5-10x the vendor price because people don't want to look for the NPC even if they need large amounts.

    Laziness is a thing.
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    Mateus
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    2. I tried to farm one of the DoL achievements, which involves gathering thousands of items. I had over 200 of 1 item not useful to me, so I put it up in bulk because it's /some/ profit without any risk of undercutting. No cost to me but time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    1) I skip CS in hopes I get that one group that also does it, generally I do not lose much of anything doing so.

    2) Can only speak for myself but often on the weekends I put expensive and popular glam items for 1000gil just for shits and giggles. No real reason behind it.
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    DumdogsWorld's Avatar
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    W'kohrahx Tia
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    I skip CS in hopes I get that one group that also does it, generally I do not lose much of anything doing so.
    You...you just openly admitted to using an exploit on the public forum.

    Yikes.
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    Ether Rose
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
    You...you just openly admitted to using an exploit on the public forum.

    Yikes.
    Uh, if i remember correctly all you do is relog to skip the cutscene. Technically, that is not an "Exploit". Personally they should make two separate roulette for the 50 MSQ where it divides players who want to watch cutscenes as opposed to those who don't want to.
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