Request for better challenges and better rewards (Formal Letter/Megathread)

[Caimie_Tsukino]

Dear respected Ms/Mr. Forum-Master / Webmaster,

Would you please kindly transfer this letter to Mr. Yoshi P?

Thank you very much for your help.

Best,
Caimie

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Dear Mr. Yoshi P-san and the respected team of FFXIV developers,

This is Caimie Tsukino here, a long-term fan of FFXIV and a lover of crafting since 2013. While crafting may not be the main focus of this game, it is still an integral component of the FFXIV experience and is highly valued by many players. Here, I am writing to request for harder crafting contents to satisfy our thirst for challenges and fun. I am also writing to request for better crafter-specific rewards, which most of us believe is long overdue. Lastly, we will include a list of suggestions from our fellow crafters for your kind perusal and consideration.


HISTORY OF OUR THIRST FOR CHALLENGES

Our hunger for new crafting challenges has been around since 2014. I don’t think many people remember how it was back in 2014, so please allow me to bring up a little bit of the history of crafting back in A Realm Reborn. Back in Patch 2.4, Master Recipe Book 2s (containing ARR 4 star recipes for i110 battle gear) were introduced to the game. To acquire the books, one had to first unlock Master Book 1s to access the recipes of special untradable items such as "Calibrated Rose Gold Cog", and then one had to HQ the Cogs to obtain Master Book 2s. You could simply buy items to exchange for Master Book 1s, but the Cogs for obtaining Master Book 2 were untradable and had to be crafted by oneself. Most players had huge difficulties in HQ-ing the Cogs, because to do so, one needed to be (1) be an all-50 omnicrafter with all the cross class skills at their disposal, (2) very luck with many Hasty Touches, which only had a success rate of 80% under the effect of Steady Hand II, and (3) able to greatly utilize crafting conditions to their benefits. Thus only a handful of master crafters had access to Master Book 2's 4 star recipes, and they were selling the i110 battle gear exclusively on the market. That was a time in the history of FFXIV when crafting hit its peak in terms of difficulty, and crafters were making millions of gil. Many master crafters found this period of the game truly enjoyable, due to the satisfaction we got from conquering the difficult "Cogs" recipes as well as the gil that poured in by selling exclusive items on the market.

However, while this phenomenon highly favored the few master crafters, this of course had its obvious problems and was unhealthy for the game in the long run. Hence, since then, the crafting game has taken up the general direction of catering more players by lowering its difficulty and making single-class crafters more viable. For the past 5 years, crafting has been made easier and easier every day. “All-50” is no longer necessary as cross class skills have been removed altogether now. Master Recipe Books have changed from “difficult to obtain” to “grindy to obtain”, and eventually to today’s “easily obtained within an hour”. The easy crafting contents have facilitated more people to take up crafting, allowing more players to access and have fun in the crafting world (which is wonderful). Meanwhile, crafting has also become more closely connected to raiding and other aspects of the game, making the whole FFXIV experience more coherent and holistic. Unfortunately, many veteran crafters like myself are enjoying less and less with the few challenges the crafting game offers, and are craving for something more exciting.

In the past few expansions, your team of developers has had numerous attempts to freshen up the crafting game for us, including the introduction of the Specialist System (which was originally to help single class crafters more viable, but eventually changed its nature), many interesting new crafting actions, a number of QoL improvements and even a huge re-work of the whole system in Shadowbringers. While we truly appreciate the diligent work of your team to refurbish the crafting game for us, our wish for more challenging contents was never truly granted. There may have been one time at the beginning of Stormblood when Special 2 Star Recipes (such as Snailfish Oil and the Ala Mhigan gear set) posed some challenges, but it was soon nerfed and was out of the crafting world.


THE CHALLENGES WE SEEK ARE “HARDER RECIPES”

Imagine FFXIV without Savage Raid content or without Extreme Trials. That is how many veteran crafters feel about the crafting game in the past few years. We need harder crafting content to keep us engaged and excited. This is a CONSENSUS among many of us right now.

To clarify this, “harder” crafting content does NOT equal to “grinds”. While “grinds” is an essential part of the game and a lot of crafters do enjoy it, it is not the challenges that we are requesting here. We understand that the game will be adding the Skysteel Crafting Tools for crafters soon, and they will be similar to Relic Weapons for raiders. If that is true, we expect that this will be a “big grind”. While this may be a good addition to the crafting game, this alone will not satisfy our thirst for challenges, as we fundamentally needs “harder” recipes. We know the game will be adding “Expert Recipes” later too, but we would like to clarify what we want here, so that these “Expert Recipes” will not come out as a disappointment.


THE DEFINITION OF “HARDER RECIPES”

In my humble opinion, the definition of a "harder recipe" can encompass one or more of the following:
- Has so much progress/quality to fill such that our current CP pool appears insufficient.
- Even a fully buffed Byregot's Blessing (buffed by Great Strides and Innovation) under IQ11 is insufficient to fill the quality bar to 100%.
- Should not be macroable.

To clarify this, “harder” recipe does NOT equal to relying completely on RNG. Quality-increasing actions (i.e. touches) should NOT have a success rate of less than 100%. Back in ARR, the recipes overly relied on the frequently-failed Hasty Touches to generate difficulty. Since the introduction of Prudent Touch in Stormblood and the major re-work of the crafting system in Shadowbringers, almost every single crafter I have spoken to expressed warm welcome to these changes. Making touches 100% in success rate was a brilliant change, and none of us wants to go back to the faulty Hasty Touches ever again in our lives. But this does not mean RNG should be excluded in the world of crafting. In fact, more RNG factors that requires decision-making from players SHOULD be included to create difficulty.

Many of our crafting actions make use of CONDITIONS, and this is one of the key factors that should allow skillful crafters to prevail. Of course, this is also RNG-based, but this is vastly different from having touches with crappy success rate. Being flexible and being capable of using the right skills at the right moment should be (and should have always been) the fun part in crafting. This is a major consensus among many experienced crafters. HARDER RECIPES SHOULD REQUIRE UTILIZATION OF CRAFTING CONDITIONS TO HQ THE ITEM. This factor is paramount to making crafting more challenging and fun.


SEPARATE “HARDER RECIPES” FROM ENDGAME RAID GEAR AND POTIONS

While many of us long for “harder recipes”, we have no intention of making crafting a chore for raiding. The making of endgame raid gear and potions serves to benefit raiding. The difficulty of these items should remain at a level where any well-geared crafter can MACRO. This will continue to attract more people to take up crafting, and continue to tighten the link between crafting and raiding. To prevent the crafting of raid gear and potions from becoming way too casual, minimal stats should be set to force crafters into high-end crafting gear in order to gain access to these recipes. But we have no intention of making these recipes “harder”, which would prevent the majority of players from accessing endgame gear. By contrast, for the “harder recipes”, minimal stats should be RECOMMENDED but NOT REQUIRED. The “harder recipes” themselves should be hard enough for force crafters into better gear, not the other way around.


BETTER REWARDS FROM DOING THE “HARDER RECIPES”

In regards to better rewards, There are a number of requests that are well-supported by a good number of crafters. Most of us support “trophy type” of tools/gear/mounts/minions that allows easy display of one’s crafting skills:
(1) Shiny glamor tools – This is long overdue since ARR. While we appreciate the addition of the “Blessed Crafting Tools”, they were NOT enough to satisfy us. We want shiny tools that are (i) huge and carried on our backs for show, much like the Lucis Crafting Tools in ARR, (ii) shine immediately when unsheathed (not only shine during crafting sessions). Primal glamor tools are also welcomed, as they will fit in this category of shiny glamor tools.
(2) Fun tools with comical sound effects, such as toy or plastic tools with a “boing” sound when unsheathed. Alternatively, laser tools with bean saber sound effect. Basically anything that is unrealistically creative and cool.
(3) Class-specific glowing mounts and minions – We have seen the fishing-specific glowing shark mount and the shark minion in Patch 5.2, and we are looking forward to seeing similar rewards for crafters. For instance, a glowing flying pan mount would be very exciting for many of us. Another example would be minions of all crafting guildmasters.

In regards to gil opportunities from “harder recipes”, there are some discrepancies in our fellow crafters. Some of us believe that the products of “harder recipes” should allow the crafter to earn great amounts of gil, while others believe that the “harder recipes” need not provide gil opportunities at all but should just provide unique “trophy type” of rewards. We understand that if the products of “harder recipes” are endgame raid-related items, it will result in a lot of problems. One possible solution may be to allow them to sell something that is highly favored by all players (such as mounts and minions, but must continuously HQ a number of the “harder recipes” to exchange for them) but not raid-related. Another possible solution may be simply by adding in direct, substantial gil reward in doing the “harder recipes”. This way, it will not interfere with endgame raid gear and potions which many want to be crafted more easily.


LIST OF SUGGESTIONS (IN ADDITION TO THE ABOVE)

Below, I have consolidated a list of suggestions from our fellow crafters for your kind perusal and consideration (We understand that not every request will be considered):
• Further utilization of crafting CONDITIONS. For example, more special actions that can only be executed under Good or Excellent conditions.
• Bring back ELEMENTAL ASPECTS as crafting conditions. We can include random “elemental conditions” (i.e. elemental procs) during a crafting session, which favor certain actions, such as Name/Brand of [Element]. This will make the conditions visually more interesting, and bring in more opportunities for players to make good use of conditions.
• 5th condition for quality. Apart from Normal, Good, Excellent and Poor, a 5th condition may be considered to be added into the game. It may even be a disadvantageous one so as to balance good and bad procs.
• Conditions for progress. In addition to quality, introduce conditions that can alter progress as well.
• Actions that allows exchange of conditions. For example, an action that can exchange an Excellent for two consecutive Good procs. Alternatively, give us the actions to make trade-offs between quality-affecting and progress-affecting conditions.
• Introduce an entirely different series of crafter books called “Grandmaster Book Recipes”. Currently, “Master Book Recipes” consist of endgame raid gear. The books are very easy (a bit too easy) to acquire, and the recipes are all easily macroable even without the use of HQ raw mats. If this is to remain the same, “Grandmaster Books” may be added to the game. These recipes will require one to think carefully about each crafting step, taking advantage of conditions. Grandmaster items can only be crafted to HQ (no NQ version). To access Grandmaster recipes you take a quest in which you must craft an HQ Grandmaster test item. Pass the test and the recipes are unlocked. Fail a Grandmaster recipe and all materials involved are lost. There can be a daily limit of how many times you take on Grandmaster recipes. This can make the task more exciting as more RISK is involved.
• Bring back the value of HQ raw mats. Currently, the use of HQ mats is almost meaningless, as everything can be crafted from pure NQ mats. We need harder recipes that actually need some utilization of HQ mats. So perhaps making gathered HQ mats actually helpful with HQ-ing Grandmaster Recipes or Expert Recipes will help. This will also resolve problems that gatherers are currently encountering, as many are complaining that HQ mats have been de-valued.
• Certain Semi-Specialist-Crystals, job titles or certain gear may offer a small boost to one kind of stat or even chance of condition proc.
• Better crafting tables during crafting sessions. This is also long overdue as we are really bored with the same crafting tables since ARR.
• More glamor / more creative titles. This is something that is always welcomed by everyone.
• One set of shared crafting gear, 8 different looks. This is not something easy for the developers to do, but we do look forward the day which we can have different glamor sets for our many crafting classes while all wearing one single set of shared gear.
• Craftsman exclusive housing ward. Have a housing ward that has market stalls for craftsman retainers. Allow these stalls to be rented for scrip tokens. Have various size spaces available and allow display mannequins to be set up in their spaces to showcase their wares. Allow retainers selling here to remain off of the market board. This would let players experience a shopping mall sort of feel in the ward. Players can find "sale" items not available on the MB if they decide to check out the Market ward.
• Labels for FC chests for sorting out materials.
• Check marks on completed Master Recipes.

The crafting game of FFXIV was once crowned as the best among all MMOs of this era. I am very grateful that I had this opportunity to experience it together with the rest of my fellow crafters. With the upcoming of “Expert Recipes” and “Skysteel Crafting Tools”, it is very important that SE is clear with what crafters want to avoid expectation violation. We understand it is not an easy task to keep so many players satisfied, and it’s a lot of hard work to respond to our requests above. But please kindly heed our call at least in regards to harder recipes and better rewards.

Thank you very much. I look forward to hearing your favorable reply soon (either here on the forum or basically just seeing the actual changes in the game).

Yours sincerely,
Caimie Tsukino

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To show our sincerity, we have translated the above letter into Japanese for your convenience (please pardon mistakes generated from Google Translate):
誠意を示すため、上記の手紙をお客様の便宜のために日本語に翻訳しました（Google翻訳から生成されたミスをご容赦ください）：

親愛なるヨシ・Pさんと尊敬される開発者チーム、

ここは、FFXIVの長期的なファンであり、2013年以降クラフトの愛好家であるケイミーCaimie Tsukino。クラフトはこのゲームの主な焦点ではないかもしれませんが、FFXIVエクスペリエンスの不可欠な要素であり、多くのプレイヤーから高く評価されています。ここでは、挑戦と楽しみへの渇望を満たすために、より難しいコンテンツを要求するために書いています。私はまた、より良い生産者固有の報酬を要求するために書いています。最後に、あなたの親切な閲覧と考慮のために、私たちの仲間の製作者からの提案のリストを含めます。


私たちの挑戦の歴史

新しいクラフトのチャレンジに対する私たちの渇望は2014年以来です。2014年にどのように戻ったかを覚えている人は多くないと思います。ARealm Rebornでのクラフトの歴史を少しお話させてください。パッチ2.4に戻り、マスターレシピブック2（i110バトルギア用のARR 4スターレシピを含む）がゲームに導入されました。本を入手するには、最初にマスターブック1のロックを解除して、「キャリブレーションローズゴールドコグ」などの特別な取引不能アイテムのレシピにアクセスし、次にマスターブック2を取得するためにコグをHQする必要がありました。マスターブック1と交換するためのアイテムを購入するだけでもかまいませんが、マスターブック2を入手するためのコグは手に負えないため、自分で作成する必要がありました。ほとんどのプレイヤーは、コグのHQで大きな困難を抱えていました。そのためには、（1）すべてのクロスクラススキルを自由に使える全50オムニクラフターである必要があり、（2）多くのHasty Touch Steady Hand IIの影響下で成功率が80％しかなく、（3）製作条件を大いに活用して利益を得ました。したがって、ほんの一握りのマスタークラフターのみがマスターブック2の4つ星のレシピにアクセスでき、市場でのみi110バトルギアを販売していました。それは、FFXIVの歴史の中で、クラフトが難易度の点でピークに達し、クラフターが何百万ものギルを作ったときでした。困難な「コグ」レシピと、市場で独占的なアイテムを販売することによって注ぎ込まれたギルを征服することで得た満足のため、多くのマスタークラフターはこのゲームの期間を本当に楽しいと感じました。

ただし、この現象は少数のマスタークラフターに非常に有利でしたが、これにはもちろん明らかな問題があり、長期的にはゲームに不健康でした。したがって、それ以来、クラフトゲームは、難易度を下げてシングルクラスのクラフトをより実行可能にすることで、より多くのプレイヤーをケータリングするという一般的な方向を取りました。過去5年間、クラフトは毎日ますます簡単になりました。クロスクラススキルが完全に削除されたため、「All-50」は不要になりました。マスターレシピ本は「入手困難」から「入手困難」に変わり、最終的には今日の「1時間以内に容易に入手可能」になりました。簡単に作成できるコンテンツにより、より多くの人が作成を始めることができ、より多くのプレイヤーが作成の世界にアクセスして楽しむことができます（素晴らしい）。一方、クラフティングは、レイドやゲームの他の側面とより密接に関連するようになったため、FFXIV全体がより一貫した全体的な体験になります。残念ながら、私のような多くのベテラン製作者は、クラフティングゲームが提供するいくつかの課題でますます楽しんでおらず、よりエキサイティングなものを切望しています。

過去数回の拡張で、開発者のチームは、スペシャリストシステム（当初は単一クラスのクラフターをより実行可能にするが最終的にその性質を変更することを目的としていた）の導入を含め、クラフティングゲームを刷新するための多数の試みを行いました。興味深い新しい作成アクション、多数のQoLの改善、Shadowbringersのシステム全体の大規模なリワークまでもが行われました。私たちのためにクラフトゲームを一新するためのあなたのチームの勤勉な仕事を本当に感謝していますが、より挑戦的なコンテンツに対する私たちの願いは決して真に認められませんでした。ストームブラッドの初めに、特別な2つ星のレシピ（Snailfish OilやAla Mhiganギアセットなど）がいくつかの課題を提起したことがあったかもしれませんが、すぐに弱体化し、クラフトの世界から外れました。


私たちが求めている課題は「より難しいレシピ」です

サベージレイドコンテンツやエクストリームトライアルなしでFFXIVを想像してください。これが、過去数年間に多くのベテラン製作者がクラフトゲームについて感じていることです。エンゲージメントと興奮を維持するためには、より難しいクラフトコンテンツが必要です。これは、私たちの多くの間で今の同意です。

これを明確にするために、「より難しい」作成コンテンツは「グラインド」とは異なります。 「グラインド」はゲームの重要な部分であり、多くのクラフターが楽しんでいますが、ここで求めているのはチャレンジではありません。ゲームがクラフター向けのSkysteelクラフティングツールを近日中に追加し、レイダーのレリックウェポンに似ていることを理解しています。それが本当なら、これは「大きなグラインド」になると期待しています。これはクラフティングゲームへの良い追加かもしれませんが、基本的に「より難しい」レシピが必要なため、これだけではチャレンジに対する渇望を満足させることはできません。ゲームで「エキスパートレシピ」も後から追加されることはわかっていますが、ここで何が欲しいかを明確にして、これらの「エキスパートレシピ」が失望として出ないようにします。


「より難しいレシピ」の定義

私の謙虚な意見では、「より難しいレシピ」の定義には、次の1つ以上が含まれます。
-現在のCPプールが不十分と思われるほど、満たすべき進捗/品質が非常に高い。
-IQ11で完全にバフされたByregot's Blessing（Great StridesとInnovationによってバフされます）でさえ、品質バーを100％まで満たすには不十分です。
-マクロ可能であってはなりません。

これを明確にするために、「より難しい」レシピは、RNGに完全に依存することとは異なります。品質を高めるアクション（つまり、タッチ）の成功率は100％未満である必要があります。 ARRに戻って、レシピは難易度を上げるために頻繁に失敗するHasty Touchesに過度に依存していました。 StormbloodにPrudent Touchが導入され、Shadowbringersのクラフティングシステムが大幅に変更されて以来、私が話したほぼすべてのクラフターが、これらの変更に温かい歓迎を表明しました。成功率を100％にすることは素晴らしい変化であり、私たちの誰もが私たちの生活の中で二度と欠陥のあるHasty Touchesに戻りたいとは思いません。しかし、これは、RNGがクラフトの世界で除外されることを意味するものではありません。実際、難易度を上げるために、プレーヤーの意思決定を必要とするRNG要因をさらに含める必要があります。

私たちの作成アクションの多くは条件を使用します。これは、熟練した作成者が勝つための重要な要素の1つです。もちろん、これはRNGベースでもありますが、これは安っぽい成功率に触れることとは大きく異なります。柔軟で、適切なタイミングで適切なスキルを使用できるようにすることは、クラフトの楽しい部分である必要があります（常にそうであったはずです）。これは、多くの経験豊富な生産者の間で大きなコンセンサスです。ハーダーレシピには、アイテムの本社へのクラフト条件の利用が必要です。この要素は、クラフトをより挑戦的で楽しいものにする上で最も重要です。


エンドゲームRAIDギアとポーションから「ハードレシピ」を分離

私たちの多くは「より難しいレシピ」を求めていますが、私たちは襲撃のために雑用を作成するつもりはありません。ゲーム終了時のレイドギアとポーションの作成は、レイドに利益をもたらします。これらのアイテムの難易度は、装備の整った生産者がMACROできるレベルにとどまる必要があります。これにより、さらに多くの人々がクラフトを引き受けるようになり、クラフトとレイドの関係が引き続き強化されます。レイドギアとポーションの作成があまりにもカジュアルにならないようにするには、これらのレシピにアクセスするために、最小限のステータスを設定して、クラフターをハイエンドのクラフトギアに強制する必要があります。しかし、これらのレシピを「難しく」するつもりはありません。これにより、大半のプレイヤーがエンドゲームのギアにアクセスできなくなります。対照的に、「より難しいレシピ」については、最小限の統計値が推奨されるべきですが、必須ではありません。 「より難しいレシピ」自体は、フォースクラフターがより良いギアを作成するのに十分な難易度であり、その逆ではありません。


「より厳しいレシピ」を行うことによるより良い報酬

より良い報酬に関しては、多くのクラフターによって十分にサポートされている多くのリクエストがあります。私たちのほとんどは、自分のクラフトスキルを簡単に表示できるツール/ギア/マウント/ミニオンの「トロフィータイプ」をサポートしています。
（1）光沢のある魅力的なツール–これは、ARRから長い間延期されました。 「祝福されたクラフティングツール」が追加されたことは感謝していますが、満足させるには十分ではありませんでした。 ARRのLucis Crafting Toolsのように、（i）巨大でショーのために背負われた光沢のあるツールが必要です。（ii）シースを外すとすぐに輝きます（クラフトセッション中に輝きます）。光沢のあるグラマーツールのこのカテゴリに適合するため、プライマルグラマーツールも歓迎します。
（2）コミカルなサウンドエフェクトを備えた楽しいツール。たとえば、おもちゃを脱いだときの「ボイン」音のあるプラスチックツール。または、ビーンサーベルサウンドエフェクト付きのレーザーツール。基本的には、非現実的に創造的でクールなものなら何でも。
（3）クラス固有の光るマウントとミニオン–パッチ5.2で釣り固有の光るサメマウントとサメミニオンを見てきました。クラフターに対する同様の報酬を楽しみにしています。たとえば、私たちの多くにとって、光るフライングパンマウントは非常に刺激的です。別の例は、すべての生産ギルドマスターの手先です。

「より難しいレシピ」からのギルの機会に関して、仲間のクラフターにはいくつかの矛盾があります。 「より難しいレシピ」の製品は生産者が大量のギルを獲得できると信じている人もいれば、「より難しいレシピ」はギルの機会をまったく提供する必要はなく、単に「トロフィータイプ」の報酬を提供するだけだと考える人もいます。 。 「より難しいレシピ」の製品がエンドゲームの襲撃関連アイテムである場合、多くの問題が発生することを理解しています。考えられる解決策の1つは、すべてのプレイヤーに非常に好まれているもの（マウントやミニオンなどですが、それらと交換するには多くの「より難しいレシピ」を継続的にHQする必要があります）を販売できるようにすることです。別の可能な解決策は、「より難しいレシピ」を行う際に直接、実質的なギル報酬を追加することです。この方法では、多くの人がより簡単に作成したいエンドゲームレイドギアとポーションに干渉しません。


提案リスト（上記に加えて）

以下に、皆さんの親切な検​​討と考慮のために、仲間の製作者からの提案のリストを統合しました（すべてのリクエストが考慮されるわけではないことを理解しています）：
• 製造条件のさらなる活用。たとえば、良好な状態または優れた状態でのみ実行できるより特別なアクション。
• 製作条件として要素の側面を取り戻します。クラフトセッション中に、ランダムな「要素の条件」（つまり要素のプロセス）を含めることができます。これは、[要素]の名前/ブランドなどの特定のアクションを優先します。これにより、コンディションが視覚的に面白くなり、プレイヤーがコンディションをうまく活用できる機会が増えます。
• 品質の5番目の条件。 Normal、Good、Excellent、Poor以外に、5番目の条件がゲームに追加されると見なされる場合があります。良いプロセスと悪いプロセスのバランスをとるために、それは不利なものでさえあるかもしれません。
• 進捗状況。品質に加えて、進捗状況を変える可能性のある条件を導入します。
• 条件の交換を許可するアクション。たとえば、2つの連続したGood procに対してExcellentを交換できるアクション。または、品質に影響を与える条件と進行に影響を与える条件の間でトレードオフを行うためのアクションを提供してください。
• 「Grandmaster Book Recipes」と呼ばれるまったく異なる一連の生産者向け書籍を紹介します。現在、「マスターブックレシピ」はエンドゲームレイドギアで構成されています。本は非常に簡単に入手できます（少し簡単すぎます）。また、レシピはすべて、HQの生マットを使用しなくても簡単にマクロ化できます。これを同じままにする場合、「グランドマスターブックス」をゲームに追加できます。これらのレシピでは、条件を利用して、各作成ステップについて慎重に考える必要があります。グランドマスターアイテムは、HQでのみ作成できます（NQバージョンではありません）。 Grandmasterレシピにアクセスするには、HQ Grandmasterテストアイテムを作成する必要があるクエストに参加します。テストに合格すると、レシピのロックが解除されます。グランドマスターのレシピに失敗すると、関係するすべての材料が失われます。グランドマスターレシピの使用回数には1日あたりの制限があります。これにより、より多くのRISKが関与するため、タスクがより刺激的になります。
•HQ生マットの価値を取り戻します。現在、すべてが純粋なNQマットから作成できるため、HQマットの使用はほとんど無意味です。 HQマットを実際に使用する必要のある、より難しいレシピが必要です。そのため、収集されたHQマットを実際にHQ-ing Grandmaster RecipesまたはExpert Recipesで役立てることが役立つでしょう。また、多くの人がHQマットの価値が低下していると不平を言っているので、これは収集者が現在直面している問題を解決します。
•特定の準専門家の結晶、役職、または特定のギアは、1種類のステータス、または状態procのチャンスにわずかなブーストを提供する場合があります。
•作成セッション中のより良い作成テーブル。 ARR以来、同じクラフトテーブルに本当に飽き飽きしているので、これも長らく遅れています。
•より魅力的で創造的なタイトル。これは、常に誰もが歓迎するものです。
•1セットの共有クラフトギア、8種類の外観。開発者がこれを行うのは簡単なことではありませんが、共有ギアの1つのセットをすべて着用しながら、多くのクラフトクラスで異なる魅力的なセットを使用できる日を楽しみにしています。
•職人専用住宅病棟。職人のリテーナーのための市場の屋台がある住宅病棟を持っています。スクリップトークン用にこれらのストールをレンタルできるようにします。さまざまなサイズのスペースを用意し、スペースにディスプレイマネキンを設置して、製品を展示できます。ここで販売しているリテーナーがマーケットボードから離れたままにできるようにします。これにより、プレイヤーは、ショッピングモールで病棟のような感覚を味わうことができます。プレイヤーは、マーケットワードをチェックアウトすることに決めた場合、MBでは利用できない「セール」アイテムを見つけることができます。
•材料を選別するためのFCチェストのラベル。
•完了したマスターレシピのチェックマーク。

FFXIVのクラフトゲームは、かつてこの時代のすべてのMMOの中で最高のものとして冠されました。私はこの機会を他の仲間の製作者と一緒に体験する機会を得たことに非常に感謝しています。 「Expert Recipes」と「Skysteel Crafting Tools」の登場により、SEがクラフターが期待違反を回避したいことを明確にすることが非常に重要です。多くのプレイヤーを満足させるのは簡単なことではなく、上記のリクエストに応えるのは大変なことです。しかし、少なくともより難しいレシピとより良い報酬に関しては、私たちの電話に親切に注意してください。
どうもありがとうございました。私はあなたの好意的な回答をすぐに聞くことを楽しみにしています（ここフォーラムで、または基本的にゲームの実際の変化を見るだけです）。

敬具、
Caimie Tsukino

[Nandrolone]

I feel like if a thread like this comes from you, it’ll definitely make a positive impact for once, for the veterans who have wanted this for so long. Thank you for standing up for what is right and helping us get what FFXIV needs again! Now we play the waiting game...

Really hoping they give us really cute glam that’s hard to unlock....like, a cute frilly CUL apron you can glam over any piece of gear, no matter the job. As long as they give us something like that, and maybe make hard recipes sellable on marketboard (like selling minions or mounts or glam like Caimie suggested) then that’s enough for me.

[Hasrat]

I don't even consider myself a "crafter." I just enjoy trying out all the content the game has to offer (otherwise known as the Skinner Box lab rat). But, I really appreciate broaching the subject of what "harder" crafting is. I've sorta vaguely paid attention to the conversations for a little while, off and on, and yeah, what players consider "hard" does seem to vary.

I do like the idea of many more new condition procs. That may be the best/only way to really steer crafting away from "figure out the macro, and all difficulty is gone." That seemed to me to be the most contradictory point of the discussion. "We want harder crafting, but we also want more macro crafting."

Personally, not being a very serious crafter, I've never really used macros, and I always thought it was more fun to actually react to conditions, and adjust skill usage on the fly. I haven't really felt that as much since starting HW content, but I'd attribute that more to just not feeling like I needed to craft as much as I did before I bought the expansions and was capped at 50.

Which kinda leaves me wondering a little bit if there's anything that can be done to make crafting pre-level cap actually relevant. Maybe it's just because, again, not too deep into it myself, but, seems like a lot of what was big and important at, say, end of HW, is all just obsolete and skipped now, same with 70. I'd even go so far as to say that was actually sorta one nice thing about those Master Book 2 nightmares. Could be a direction your Grandmaster suggestion goes in, something that feels like you want to stop and take the time to do (or otherwise massively overlevel until you can bruteforce it).

On that subject, what might be the possibility of creating "synced" crafting content? I guess some of the Ixali crafting might sorta fit that description. That may even be somewhere to look at ways to implement variation in the future. It may be nice to see some recipes that you aren't allowed to over-gear. Or maybe not. Idk.

A jumbled collection of casual thoughts that may or may not apply to the consideration of high-end crafting.

[PeanutJellyfish]

Really hoping they give us really cute glam that’s hard to unlock....like, a cute frilly CUL apron you can glam over any piece of gear, no matter the job. As long as they give us something like that, and maybe make hard recipes sellable on marketboard (like selling minions or mounts or glam like Caimie suggested) then that’s enough for me.

This, please. Can’t say I care much for the glamour though. Mostly interested in the gil obtained from completing harder recipes. Whether it be from an NPC, or items sellable through markets. Hoping your suggestions on camie’s other thread are implemented, personally. Everything you listed is exactly what Final Fantasy is lacking right now.

[Asbe10]

Hello, Ashe10 from Youtube here. I really miss the crafting in Heavensward, for me personally what I most enjoyed about it was getting nicely rewarded for my hard work on the market board, nowadays when you can Macro the craftable battle gear 100% HQ with NQ mats that defeats everything I loved about it in Heavensward. It's kinda sad when the prices of gear drop so low that you are not even making any profit if you were to buy the materials. Materials should also be limited like it used to in Heavensward with Weekly capped scrip and the favor mats. I really loved doing favors it really kept the market board healthy for those who wanted to put in the effort to make Gil, and it made gatherers way more important with their weekly Scrips that they could get favor mats and sell them to crafters. It might be selfish but mounts and glamour are not gonna fix it for some of us. A crafting leaderboard isn't the way to go, personally I wouldn't care about it.
Really loving the suggestions from the Original Poster here though, thank you so much!!

[Nandrolone]

Hello, Ashe10 from Youtube here. I really miss the crafting in Heavensward, for me personally what I most enjoyed about it was getting nicely rewarded for my hard work on the market board, nowadays when you can Macro the craftable battle gear 100% HQ with NQ mats that defeats everything I loved about it in Heavensward. It's kinda sad when the prices of gear drop so low that you are not even making any profit if you were to buy the materials. Materials should also be limited like it used to in Heavensward with Weekly capped scrip and the favor mats. I really loved doing favors it really kept the market board healthy for those who wanted to put in the effort to make Gil, and it made gatherers way more important with their weekly Scrips that they could get favor mats and sell them to crafters. It might be selfish but mounts and glamour are not gonna fix it for some of us. A crafting leaderboard isn't the way to go, personally I wouldn't care about it.
Really loving the suggestions from the Original Poster here though, thank you so much!!

Holy crap, another legendary crafter appears?! Okay, something good definitely has to come out of this, lol. Anyways, 100% agree with everything you said, Ashe!

[Nezerius]

Hello, Ashe10 from Youtube here. I really miss the crafting in Heavensward, for me personally what I most enjoyed about it was getting nicely rewarded for my hard work on the market board, nowadays when you can Macro the craftable battle gear 100% HQ with NQ mats that defeats everything I loved about it in Heavensward. It's kinda sad when the prices of gear drop so low that you are not even making any profit if you were to buy the materials. Materials should also be limited like it used to in Heavensward with Weekly capped scrip and the favor mats. I really loved doing favors it really kept the market board healthy for those who wanted to put in the effort to make Gil, and it made gatherers way more important with their weekly Scrips that they could get favor mats and sell them to crafters. It might be selfish but mounts and glamour are not gonna fix it for some of us. A crafting leaderboard isn't the way to go, personally I wouldn't care about it.
Really loving the suggestions from the Original Poster here though, thank you so much!!

You seem to be remembering the Favor mats period of the game very, very differently from what I remember how things were, back then.

I remember it as a period of time in which the Favor system required a change to make it bearable (buff timer reduced to 5 min, down from 15 min, increased chance for concealed nodes to spawn). The effort that went into crafting the 3.0 DoW/M gear made it so the prices were high enough for most of the non-crafter playerbase to just ignore it in favor of the more easily attainable (augmented) Law tomestone gear/Gordias normal gear. It turned into a game of crafters crafting gear for other crafters/gatherers, and that's where the majority of the gil profit came from. And even that profit would go down over time, as more crafters realised that the DoW/M market was dead.

That period of the game was the turning point that eventually lead us to where we are right now. DoH/L gear introduced in odd numbered patches, in preparation for the DoW/M gear coming in the following even numbered patches. DoW/M gear that would then be easy enough to craft, so crafters could churn it out in patch day, allowing the first wave of savage raiders to be use it for progression.

[Asbe10]

You seem to be remembering the Favor mats period of the game very, very differently from what I remember how things were, back then.

I remember it as a period of time in which the Favor system required a change to make it bearable (buff timer reduced to 5 min, down from 15 min, increased chance for concealed nodes to spawn). The effort that went into crafting the 3.0 DoW/M gear made it so the prices were high enough for most of the non-crafter playerbase to just ignore it in favor of the more easily attainable (augmented) Law tomestone gear/Gordias normal gear. It turned into a game of crafters crafting gear for other crafters/gatherers, and that's where the majority of the gil profit came from. And even that profit would go down over time, as more crafters realised that the DoW/M market was dead.

That period of the game was the turning point that eventually lead us to where we are right now. DoH/L gear introduced in odd numbered patches, in preparation for the DoW/M gear coming in the following even numbered patches. DoW/M gear that would then be easy enough to craft, so crafters could churn it out in patch day, allowing the first wave of savage raiders to be use it for progression.

True, hardcore raiders had Gil anyway and would spend 35 million Gil on a chest piece that took blood and sweat to craft hahaha. We all know hardcore raiders are rich from selling Savage runs. And The savage wasn't in the best shape anyway in 3.0. It was so hard only Hardcore raiders managed to clear A3s and A4s. Obviously my opinion about favor mats is not popular but it really revolutionized the value of gatherers to the crafters. Maybe keep the craftable battle gear easy to HQ so it doesn't make it tedious for raiders as the OP suggested, but at least make the crafting and gathering gear difficult to HQ.

[ILikeApples]

True, hardcore raiders had Gil anyway and would spend 35 million Gil on a chest piece that took blood and sweat to craft hahaha. We all know hardcore raiders are rich from selling Savage runs. And The savage wasn't in the best shape anyway in 3.0. It was so hard only Hardcore raiders managed to clear A3s and A4s. Obviously my opinion about favor mats is not popular but it really revolutionized the value of gatherers to the crafters. Maybe keep the craftable battle gear easy to HQ so it doesn't make it tedious for raiders as the OP suggested, but at least make the crafting and gathering gear difficult to HQ.

O_O Wow, didn’t expect Ashelia Dalmasca to post, lol. xD Nontheless, I think Ashelia is absolutely correct. At least make the crafting and gathering gear hard to HQ, as crafting and gathering are economical jobs. Combat jobs aren’t that economical. A lot of hardcore players sure did miss the gil earnings, I know I did. There needs to be a barrier between casual content and hardcore content, and both content should co exist.

But dude, I did not expect Ashelia to post on here...wow. Guess crafting has gotten so bad to the point where even Ashelia has to join the fight. Actually kind of sad Yoshida let it get to this point

[Aurida]

You seem to be remembering the Favor mats period of the game very, very differently from what I remember how things were, back then.

Ha ha, yes, time for me and my seven crafter alts with a full allotment of weekly scrips to dominate the market board because I can funnel all of it into getting big gear on my main and then selling the rest. Remember, it's not about the system being fun or in-depth, it's about keeping people out so we can dominate the market board and acquire all the profit. Really sucks that people can just... get gear and jump into it! And now they're relegating all the hard stuff to Expert recipes, which only reward stuff that DON'T help me reach the gil cap on my third alt's seventh retainer? Get real Yoshida.