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    No offence, but why is it any of your business what people want to do? Multiple valid reasons have been given as to why this change benefits the game, and so far there have been no valid reasons as to why it harms the game other than "OMG you don't have to do savage immediately", which you are further perpetuating.
    It arbitrarily delays the release of content that's already ready to be released, forcing everyone who was ready/willing to run it now to have to wait longer.

    There's your reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    It arbitrarily delays the release of content that's already ready to be released, forcing everyone who was ready/willing to run it now to have to wait longer.

    There's your reason.
    Man waiting an additional week after a six month cycle between Savage tiers. However would you cope?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    Man waiting an additional week after a six month cycle between Savage tiers. However would you cope?
    Well if it's not a big deal for them to lose a week, then why is self-delaying for a few days such a big deal that people can't just talk to their statics to figure something out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valorak View Post
    Well if it's not a big deal for them to lose a week, then why is self-delaying for a few days such a big deal that people can't just talk to their statics to figure something out?
    Clearly you don't understand what it means to be competitive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Clearly you don't understand what it means to be competitive.
    Being competitive generally includes being ready for the competition on time. If that's what matters to you the most, then prioritize it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    It arbitrarily delays the release of content that's already ready to be released, forcing everyone who was ready/willing to run it now to have to wait longer.

    There's your reason.
    Ultimate fights must be absolutely unbearable then. How do people cope with that 2 week delay after patch drop I wonder?

    Oh wait, they don't give a damn.
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    Man waiting an additional week after a six month cycle between Savage tiers. However would you cope?
    Delays are delays. They asked for a "valid reason" that it harms the game; slower content IMO is a valid reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Delays are delays. They asked for a "valid reason" that it harms the game; slower content IMO is a valid reason.
    It wouldn't harm the game in the slightest. They already delay the first savage raids for 2 weeks for the exact specific reason that people can enjoy the story. There is literally no single good reason to not delay them for a week. I'm sure it will be implemented this way in the next savage patch, seeing as Yodhi P is already considering it as it is. And I'm sure the SE devs that spend thousands of hours curating the cut scenes and story of the raid will be pleased that half the player base is not skipping them.
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    especially considering it already gets delayed at expansion launches and no one really seems to mind
    Uh, the general consensus is that the .0 - .05 patches are the absolute worst in terms of things to do, and that .05-.1 is only slightly better.

    People already generally hate the idea of delaying the 1/3 of savage tiers, yes.


    competitive raiders must sacrifice their enjoyment in other parts of the game in order to sustain their activities
    EVERYONE has to do this at different times, its a nonsense argument. You cant play on Crystal and expect to find a group that raids on Hawaii time. You cant be a crafter and make day 1 patch money and simultaneously raid world firsts (which you sure as hell can do in other games) without having external sources of mats. You cant simultaneously be a PvP'er and enjoy the PvP system.

    If you arent doing the content minute 1 in a race to world first, it has zero impact on you except you potentially have to log on 10 minutes earlier or extend your day 1 raiding 10 minutes.

    Theres still no argument on the table that justifies delaying content for the majority of players so a small fraction of a small fraction of a few players can feel like they arent rushed watching 10 minutes of cutscenes right away when their goal is doing something completely different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraind View Post
    Uh, the general consensus is that the .0 - .05 patches are the absolute worst in terms of things to do, and that .05-.1 is only slightly better.

    People already generally hate the idea of delaying the 1/3 of savage tiers, yes.
    That's not about delaying savage. That's some people not enjoying the specific content that comes out.

    Honestly I think there would be war if those patches brought in more savage content. Many very good teams wouldn't be finished savage at that point, and certainly ultimate savage takes a hell of a lot longer than actual savage. By releasing tiers too soon SE would be making their own content prematurely out of date. Nevermind how it would increase their workload to release savage content more frequently.

    Also lets not compare several weeks or months without new savage content to a handful of days, which is what OP is asking for. You're blowing this out of proportion by bringing in very very long periods of time into the argument.
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