Can we please delay Savage?

[EaMett]

I don't care either way. With that said. I still, after 16 pages, don't understand why having the savage tier release a week later is an issue?

[Enla]

I don't care either way. With that said. I still, after 16 pages, don't understand why having the savage tier release a week later is an issue?

Because 'choice' apparently? Except it's never been actually explained how keeping things the way they are now provides more choice to people or how it benefits anyone beyond some abstract ill-defined point. Just that it 'does'.

[Poison_Rose]

I like the idea of delaying the 2nd / 3rd tier of savage for a week. Not having to rush through the story and skip parts of it when I get home from work sounds wonderful.

[Hysterior]

I think they should delay by a week as well.

By now, they know that there is a race for world first for each savage content.
The raid itself should be the start of the race. You should not have to go through multiple quests and such beforehand.
Release the normal mode so people can watch the story unfold and release the raid quest a week later, simple unlock. Patch and go.
Heck, even 3 days later would probably do.

That way crafter have done their jobs, teams could theorize on mechanics beforehand.

Only (major) drawbacks is probably that a full week give too much time for dataminers to probably figure out all the mechanics which skews the race.

[Satarn]

Only (major) drawbacks is probably that a full week give too much time for dataminers to probably figure out all the mechanics which skews the race.

That's a valid concern, but they could probably just make the savage-specific files part of the patch that unlocks it, rather than bundling it together with everything else. It is good to point out such things however, so if devs were to listen to this request they know what to consider.

[Fynlar]

It is when SE chooses not to delay the two subsequent Savage tiers and requires Normal mode to be cleared. The whole point is if you want to better your chances of a week one kill, you have to skip cut scenes and rush through Normal.

You chasing a week one kill is a matter between you and your raid group, not SE.

[Lastelli]

You chasing a week one kill is a matter between you and your raid group, not SE.

SE clearly cares about people being ready for savage content since they delay the first savage specifically to let players have more time to enjoy the MSQ and other activities before diving into savage raids.

Doing this for the first savage only is frankly a little incoherent.

[Fynlar]

SE clearly cares about people being ready for savage content since they delay the first savage specifically to let players have more time to enjoy the MSQ and other activities before diving into savage raids.

The mere fact this topic was made seems to indicate they don't care as much as you seem to think they do.

[ForteNightshade]

maybe not the first tier of savage , but datamining was used for TEA to figure out a mechanic.

no, you don't have to rush. You choose too. at least be honest about it

No, it was not. This is a common misconception. Datamining found models but not actual mechanics and debuff names. Sure, they knew of the Heart or Nisi but not how any of it worked. If they did, then groups wouldn't have been completely walled by Inception. In fact, MOOF obtained World 2nd despite streaming and running hardcore hours instead of World race hours for specifically that reason.

You're right. I, however, cannot choose to ignore Normal mode entirely. Regardless, why does it matter to you if I or anyone finds it fun to rush? If you're satisfied downing Savage whenever, cool. I like the adrenaline rush of fast kills even if I'm not world racing. What I don't like is having the content I enjoy gated when the first tier and both Ultimates do not have such restrictions.

The mere fact this topic was made seems to indicate they don't care as much as you seem to think they do.

Actually, Yoshida was asked by Layla Bell about this very thing. They only opted not to delay Savage because they thought it would upset World racers. They even considered delaying this very tier but opted not to for whatever reason.

So that suggests they do care but may want additional feedback. Hence why I made the thread. If enough people want a change, Yoshida is usually open to at least listening.

Stop expecting SE to delay their content just because your own raid groups are impatient to clear. Either you deal with it, or find another raid group willing to go at a pace you'd prefer. Don't punish everyone else just because you'd rather take it slower.

This keeps being brought up, thus please explain how anyone is punished were Savage delayed by a week or even a couple days. Such a delay only impacts hardcore or World racing groups as anyone else will not be clearing quickly enough for it to matter. Considering those players are the ones asking for this delay, how exactly are they being punished?

[SinisterJoints]

No, it was not.

Yes, it was. Datamining was used to find all the debuffs in the raid, and one in particular was a key piece in figuring out how to get past true heart.