Open Letter to the Devs Regarding Eden's Verse: Reflugence [Spoilers]

[Kobalos]

I did E8 normal last night and some of the comments folks were making towards Ryne were eyebrow raising to say the least...:/

[TheMightyMollusk]

To me, the Savage form looks more like a sin eater than anything. It's what Ryne would think of when told someone is corrupted by the Light, mixed with the WoL's memories of Shiva and Hraesvelgr.

[Tyrn]

To me, the Savage form looks more like a sin eater than anything. It's what Ryne would think of when told someone is corrupted by the Light, mixed with the WoL's memories of Shiva and Hraesvelgr.

To me it just looks like she was trying to pull a Ran'jit move (given their history together) and combine with her dragon (like https://youtu.be/Z79J6Eni4r0?t=139) when she was told of Shiva and Hraesvelgr, maybe not a perfect recreation of his skill but given how our primal copies turned out her attempt was fairly decent.

[Zhamkyong]

To me it just looks like she was trying to pull a Ran'jit move (given their history together) and combine with her dragon (like https://youtu.be/Z79J6Eni4r0?t=139) when she was told of Shiva and Hraesvelgr, maybe not a perfect recreation of his skill but given how our primal copies turned out her attempt was fairly decent.

To me, as someone mentioned a few pages back, is a symbolism of the union of Shiva with Hraesvelgr. As in the original story, the dragon consumed the mortal to unify their souls (was it that way?) here they literaly become one entity. Also it looked like a "Final Fantasy Boss" like in the older games with the appearance they choose for them both.

[Eldevern]

18 isn't arbitrary? People are crazy as soon as we talk about sex (or supposed sexualisation). You can drive a scooter at 14, a car at 16/18, you can hunt at 16 in many countries but sex... don't think about it.

Sex? There are only perverts and victims... responsability and choice are nowhere, they are an illusion... -_- seriously...

All this because of some religious puritanism from monotheisms.

[testname]

Yeah our bad. She's wearing MORE than that. A dragon on her upper half She's even got a cloth around her lower section

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...rzy5h3sh41.png

I like how this post wrongly conflates sexual maturity with physical maturity including the brain. Fortunately, there are scientists that research these things and gives us information we didn't have before. That's why some places debate about previous age limits. They also realize we're developing sexually faster due to the presence of artificial lights, diet and nutrition. Basically our brain chemistry is saying "we have access to food, good lighting/shelter - let's breed". So we're entering into puberty faster. However, it still takes time for our brains to fully develop - which by the way is around the age of 25.

This is why I'm glad for science so that we can look at our laws (especially since the majority of the laws in US are religiously and politically driven due to lobbying) than just assume "18 is a good age to pick"

Also ...really why are we trying to apply modern law logic to a fictional world where even it's been stated there are limitations on the models they work on.

I remember You were trolling in nier 2b body part, and now this. Just snap it off okay?

[QT_Melon]

I remember You were trolling in nier 2b body part, and now this. Just snap it off okay?

Take off whatever personal chip on your shoulder and actually engage in the discussion. (not to mention your post history has a habit of accusing people of trolling you instead of actual discussion)

[Anarnee]

Ya'll are the kind of people that shouldn't be allowed in water parks cause you're too immature to be an adult about things.

I'll say this: There is nothing sexual about the designs. Will some people find them sexy? Yes. And that's their problem. Ya'll need to grow up.

[ShinShimon]

The real horror is that Ryne will always carry with her the experience of being mind-melded with a genocidal god who was based on our memory of a dead Elf from another world who was in love with a dragon.

Compared to that, I don't think she'll be bothered that we saw some of her skin.

[MOZZYSTAR]

Before I continue, I'm not "white knighting" SE (because frankly, they've shat on healers and whatnot way too much this round).

The outfit I saw in Eden 8 (or is it different in Savage?) was a deep V neck then went passed the navel, not the dragon outfit (the dragon outfit is cooler). Maybe I need to pay more attention to see the dragon outfit.

In my opinion, people are getting worked up over very little. People cry hypocrisy, but Ryne is still under SE's control. Part of the issue with playable children is not just how they can be glammed by players, but how they can be acted as, named, and RP'd. Some people already abuse lalas as "lolis" and "shotas" (I've had to report some for their names before because they got that gross about it). They'd have a field day with actual child characters.

Personally, I find the dragon outfit and the V-neck to be inspired by biblical/High Italian Renaissance paintings/sculptures (would link but nudity) as well as variations of Shiva. In high Italian Renaissance/biblical art, they are sometimes tastfully nude with fabrics draped over the lap or body in general in some way, they like to play with fabric folds (especially in hoods) like Michelangelo's Adam & God in the Sistine Chapel or La Pieta (La Pieta has a nearly naked Jesus with a fully robed Mary). There are also variations of Venus with little to no garb/fabric. And with Shiva, most variations of Shiva have very minimal attire, mainly covering the breasts and the pelvis area.

So, it suits Shiva and it suits the Sineater/Shadowbringer vibe all together. It was very mindless of them, though. I think they were going more for a "cool factor" than thinking about a potential issue. If anything, they might censor it for us Westerners while keeping it the same for everywhere else seeing as we get offended over everything. Personally, I think the dragon outfit is fine. Girls usually start wearing 2-piece bathing suits somewhere in elementary, sometimes exposing the middrift area and sometimes not. The deep V neck is a bit too racey, but I honestly had to zoom in and rotate my camera to actually see it (and I always keep zoomed out for trials/dungeons), so it took me a couple runs to notice.

As for her undress/redress mystical sparkle mist cloud around her body: she's a magical girl having her magical transformation moment. Let her live her Sailor Moon dreams.