How we determine balance and its flaws.

[Vendalwind]

Do note that if you extend my initial example to 4 dps with utility their compounding buffs outdo the 4 selfish dps scenario. This is intentional to again show a bad side of this balance where mixed parties are the worst. This shouldn't happen either and the solutions i propose above can in fact yield a scenario where even including compounding buffs 4 support dps is not as optimal as 2 and 2. Just gotta play with the numbers enough.

This thread also was intended to combat people that constantly complain about balance
Balance is a very very fluid and living thing in a game like this, especially as sub stats scale differently for different classes in terms of effectiveness cycles into each patch tier (crit becomes god, but some classes get even more added benefit from crit and group crit)
The above is just one of the reasons, and one of the things developers consider and math out constantly to theoretically balance a game.
And doing this while maintaining class diversity without homogenizing? Is real real tough. Put on top of that making the class fun to play and raid fights balanced to the classes mechanics... it gets complicated.

Personally I think my Main class deserves a bit more rDPS within melee tier (Ninja) BUT i wouldn't even ask for it right now. Because I am quite happy with how close to balanced regardless the game currently is with the only current minor flaw in my eyes being ranged lagging jsut a bit too far behind. And of course wanting a class changed for fun purposes or playability purposes (like how monk still needs to be changed and many Ninjas like myself are unhappy with the shift away from blade play) is a whole different beast, and when changes like that are done the above damage output balancing has to be reconsidered as well. Thats my opinion and my bias, but i hope you can abstract that bias and see it separately from my initial post.

Thanks if you manage to muscle through all of this.