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  1. #21
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EaMett View Post
    Means people switch before the first target dies. Makes sense on caster since you could sit there casting and have your cast go to waste because the target dies before it goes off. But melee don't really have to deal with that yet still switch (perhaps to not clip their gcd but it's dumb if said target doesn't die). True thing.
    Usually because they have a big hitting GCD that will do more damage than the mob has HP. So it's better to put that extra damage on something else instead of it going to waste. That, plus if it dies before their animation registers, it'll cancel.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  2. #22
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Prime example of "Bystander Syndrome" aka someone else will do it. I (job in question) don't want to waste MY big number on something that will die to a lesser ability.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  3. #23
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    MPK's Avatar
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    Mirabelle Weaver
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    Cactuar
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    Summoner Lv 90
    muh parrrsseeee
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  4. #24
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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Malmstrom View Post
    The enemy is almost dead!
    I asked my 14 kid, his reply:
    It is because my deeeps will show low numbers if I hit 500 with my 2500 skill! After all, someone else will kill that, right? If it doesn't, I just can blame someone else for not AOE-ing so I'm safe.
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  5. #25
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    MOZZYSTAR's Avatar
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    Amon Kujaku
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 8
    Quote Originally Posted by MoofiaBossVal View Post
    I am not wasting my Midare Setsugekka, my Tsubame, or my 3 meditation stack Shoha on an add with less than 10% health left.
    Same, more or less xD And then once I use up my stronger procs on a higher HP enemy, I go back to the lower hp enemy and take it down with a couple of normal shots.
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    I won't be coming back to FFXIV's forums. The forum vibe is way too venomous and brings out the worst in me. I don't like who I am on the forums, so it's best to distance myself.

  6. #26
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    kaynide's Avatar
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Depends on a lot. Switching is more about not wasting actions.
    If you are doing AoE on a higher hp mob, it is less likely the mob will die on you and waste an action. Many AoE do more damage to their primary target.
    If the mob group is about done, it might be better dps to hit with single target. Typically 3 or more targets = AoE. 1 or 2 = single target. (Ymmv depending on job/ability)
    Also also, DoTs, non gcd abilities or tank hate AoE can easily finish off stragglers.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 02-25-2020 at 04:22 PM. Reason: Unautocorrectified

  7. #27
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    Kaiserdrache's Avatar
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    Merridyll Cailleach
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    Shiva
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    Bard Lv 80
    Its just a matter of efficieny and using your brain, especially if you have aoe heavy dos in group and one that is not aoe heavy, but single target heavy and due to that alot more efficient against that to bring down targets with high health quick down to low health so that everything with low health can then be cleaved to death by aoes


    Its just the smarter way of playing, unless the low health target is top priority to kill asap
    Smart players do always use their most potent attacks against targets that have high health, because using them against targets eith like 5-10% left would be wasted potency

    As a machinist you will quickly learn to constantly switch your targets and between priorizi g single target rotation over using aoes, because you are more effective with single target skills, if there are less than 4 targets sniping one down after another, than to use aoes that are weaker and when you know, the aoes of say for example the dancer in the group will kill anyways near desd targets, so its better for you to focus then on high health targets
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  8. #28
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    SaberMaxwell's Avatar
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    Saber Maxwell
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    Faerie
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Honestly my only issue is consistency lmfao. As a caster I feel like I can't trust my team to not shank the enemy before I can blast it to giblets, so I switch. But when I switch, they switch... and then when I switch back, they switch back. It's like when you try to pass someone and you both shift in the same direction, then shift back.

    All that said, personally I'd like the ability to be able to attack a corpse with the cast I was aiming at them when they were very recently not-corpse. Think feathers from Weapon's Refrain; they were nice like that. A lot of casters get goodies for landing casts, like Dualcast or a refresh on Astral Fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    I either buy my own sandwich or I end up with pork-nostrils.

  9. #29
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    DumdogsWorld's Avatar
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    W'kohrahx Tia
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    As a melee DPS myself, the only time I ever do this is during low level dungeons, where I don't even have Doom Spike yet.

    It's because I hate the idea of one enemy being "ignored."

    Let's say you have a mob of, say, 5 enemies. When spamming AoE, they would all go down around the same time, or close to it. But when nobody has AoE, their HP is all over the place - 20%, 1%, 90%, 50%, etc. I want to replicate that dungeon flow that occurs with constant AoE. I try to equalize their health. I go for the one who has 90% health.

    Sue me.
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  10. #30
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    QT_Melon's Avatar
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    Qt Melon
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Because as Bard, it takes approx 6 seconds to apply DoTs on a target. The server tick is at 3 seconds. To get the most effective use on Shadowbite OR Sidewinder, I'm gonna need to go to a mob with higher health
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