Healing is now a state of permanent hatred.

[Averax]

I mean, healing in this game is either an endless parade of having to fix other people's mistakes or spamming your damage ability because everybody is doing just fine. It fills you with a certain amount of bitterness, but if you can't handle that then maybe healing isn't for you.

Personally i'm in the boat where i really don't trust other healers, especially with the advent of boosts. I see all kinds, some good, some really...really bad, that don't understand how their job even works.

I also like the power it gives me over the success of the group. To me, it feels like there isn't anything a tank or DPS can do that could salvage a rough pull like a good healer can. Like as long as i'm doing good, i can fix the mess. (As long as there isn't a DPS check or something)

[Floortank]

I believe the quality of healers has dropped due to the amount of career healers, like myself, who have either walked away from the role altogether or no longer heal in DF.

A lot of us saw it coming, both on here and Reddit. Other players constantly telling us it will be fine and to play something else if we don’t like it. But, I mean, we told them so.

They wanted to make healers more accessible and easier to play...but naturally the result, over time, would be what we have now; a drop in quality of healer players. *shrug*

I'm one of those players who said just play something else. I and everyone I know has the flex and have no problem doing the jobs that "career healers" vacate.

[DiznypKC]

I'm one of those players who said just play something else. I and everyone I know has the flex and have no problem doing the jobs that "career healers" vacate.

Bully for you.

That doesn’t make them good healers. I suggested a theory as to why there has been a dip in the quality of healers in the game.

And in the future, please don’t tell other players what to play. That’s not your decision.

[Videra]

I feel a part of my soul die every time excog ticks down when a Paladin casts clemency if they so much as breathe under 90% HP.

[Kummies]

I feel like this is a forum thing. Healing to my knowledge is not a hated thing.. Then again we could be speaking from completely different experiences. None of my friend groups hate healing. So I'm not very sure where this is coming from. If anything I love healing this expansion.. well lack thereof. Once you know the timing of a fight most healing can be cut to a minimal. I barely heal in Cinder Drift Extreme. Outside of my ogcd's I only cast Aspected Helios twice.. and one was 10s pre-pull. I'm not sure what people mean when they say they "hate healing" is it because you dont have to heal or because you feel like you have to heal too much? If its the latter then there is a problem on your end.

[Volkaj]

I feel like this is a forum thing. Healing to my knowledge is not a hated thing.. Then again we could be speaking from completely different experiences. None of my friend groups hate healing. So I'm not very sure where this is coming from. If anything I love healing this expansion.. well lack thereof. Once you know the timing of a fight most healing can be cut to a minimal. I barely heal in Cinder Drift Extreme. Outside of my ogcd's I only cast Aspected Helios twice.. and one was 10s pre-pull. I'm not sure what people mean when they say they "hate healing" is it because you dont have to heal or because you feel like you have to heal too much? If its the latter then there is a problem on your end.

2 Aspected Helios and the rest is OGCDs? Then all your other GCDs are spent spamming Malefic with some Combust, which is exactly what this forum is complaining about. On AST it isn't so bad since you have those bland cards to keep you busy (even if you need a parser to see the effect).

On WHM and SCH however there's nothing but the nuke and DoT, and it gets really dull.

Most people here (myself included) just want something to do other than spam one nuke and one DoT. Be it more healing (TEA-tier healing in all Savages would be nice for instance), a more involved DPS rotation (like SB SCH's) or support buffs. Realistically a more involved DPS rotation is more likely, but I'd take any of the three.

Just not 1-button spam for 10 minutes.

[DiznypKC]

I feel like this is a forum thing. Healing to my knowledge is not a hated thing.. Then again we could be speaking from completely different experiences. None of my friend groups hate healing. So I'm not very sure where this is coming from. If anything I love healing this expansion.. well lack thereof. Once you know the timing of a fight most healing can be cut to a minimal. I barely heal in Cinder Drift Extreme. Outside of my ogcd's I only cast Aspected Helios twice.. and one was 10s pre-pull. I'm not sure what people mean when they say they "hate healing" is it because you dont have to heal or because you feel like you have to heal too much? If its the latter then there is a problem on your end.

Quick Recent History Lesson:

Healer discussion (this one, anyway) has been going on since ShB media tours, on here, Reddit, and Discord. A lot of healers looked at the tool tips and said, “Hold up, something’s wrong here.”

Other non-healer mains said, “It’ll be fine, just wait until the expansion drops.”

Expansion dropped. We said, “This isn’t fun. We’re spamming on button 90% of the battles and MSQ/solo instances are tedious.”

They said, “Wait until Savage drops.”

Savage dropped. We said, “Still not any better.”

They said, “Play a DPS then.”

A lot of us did, or left the game altogether. There’s a whole thread on if/why people have quit healing.

The larger problem has been going on since Heavensward. Fun, balanced Healers are the unicorn of this game. It’s not just a forum thing.

[Kummies]

Most people here (myself included) just want something to do other than spam one nuke and one DoT. Be it more healing (TEA-tier healing in all Savages would be nice for instance), a more involved DPS rotation (like SB SCH's) or support buffs. Realistically a more involved DPS rotation is more likely, but I'd take any of the three.

Just not 1-button spam for 10 minutes.

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm all for more challenging savages/ engaging healer playstyles.. but lets be honest with ourselves.. we know SE caters to the majority of their player base and the majority of the player base is fairly casual. (I mean that in the nicest way possible) People cant even handle balancing dps and healing now.. i definitely wouldn't want to see it with more healer dps skills.

[Billythepancake]

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm all for more challenging savages/ engaging healer playstyles.. but lets be honest with ourselves.. we know SE caters to the majority of their player base and the majority of the player base is fairly casual. (I mean that in the nicest way possible) People cant even handle balancing dps and healing now.. i definitely wouldn't want to see it with more healer dps skills.

It seemed fine back in SB, what, 4 more DPS abilities on SCH? Miasma, bane, shadowflare, and cleric stance. 5 if you want to include fey wind. It's the biggest reason I fell in love with SCH, I loved my DPS/healer hybrid,.and now it's gone.

[Kummies]

Quick Recent History Lesson:

Healer discussion (this one, anyway) has been going on since ShB media tours, on here, Reddit, and Discord. A lot of healers looked at the tool tips and said, “Hold up, something’s wrong here.”

Other non-healer mains said, “It’ll be fine, just wait until the expansion drops.”

Expansion dropped. We said, “This isn’t fun. We’re spamming on button 90% of the battles and MSQ/solo instances are tedious.”

They said, “Wait until Savage drops.”

Savage dropped. We said, “Still not any better.”

They said, “Play a DPS then.”

A lot of us did, or left the game altogether. There’s a whole thread on if/why people have quit healing.

The larger problem has been going on since Heavensward. Fun, balanced Healers are the unicorn of this game. It’s not just a forum thing.

I'm not sure why you keep saying 'we' like you are the ambassador for Healers United. I never complained about the healer changes because I personally like to see how things will play out. There was definitely some healer things that needed to be adjust come ShB launch but as of right now I'd say the healers are more balanced then they have ever been. Again, I'm sorry that you are not having fun on the role you wanted to play but you don't speak for the majority of healers and neither do the forums. In my limited time being here I've realized alot of you are vocal but usually the minority in opinions.