So about that new dungeon

[Keddera_StormMoon]

Those eggs were potential casualties of war to start with - all we did was quicken the process.

Frankly, I've seen worse on the AntsCanada channel on YouTube.

[Cyreil]

Did you skip the early cutsceens in this expansion?

I look forward to seeing the next part of this thread after you have completed Ruby Weapon.

[Avidria]

Am I the only one who like... didn't feel any sympathy after the Ruby weapon thing?? I keep seeing that comparison in this thread but like...

if anything I'd call that even harder to feel bad about than killing the fish lady. Clearing out the Anyder was a preemptive strike, but the Ruby weapon was literally already on its way to slaughter people and actively tried to kill us lmao. No sad flashback is gonna make me feel bad for stopping the pilot of a literal murder machine from obliterating my entire face.

[Averax]

But still, killing a mother who just wanted the best for her tribe.
I would have like to see a more diplomatic way to get rid of them.

She wanted to birth an army there to ransack the surface world for revenge. What we did was a mercy.

[Valorak]

Am I the only one who like... didn't feel any sympathy after the Ruby weapon thing?? I keep seeing that comparison in this thread but like...

if anything I'd call that even harder to feel bad about than killing the fish lady. Clearing out the Anyder was a preemptive strike, but the Ruby weapon was literally already on its way to slaughter people and actively tried to kill us lmao. No sad flashback is gonna make me feel bad for stopping the pilot of a literal murder machine from obliterating my entire face.

I don't think there's anything wrong with not feeling a lot of sympathy there. Different strokes for different folks and all that.

For myself, even though I know that stopping the Ruby Weapon was undeniably the right thing to do, that doesn't mean that I didn't feel a little bad for Gaius. Likewise for the pilot girl. She and the other orphans only joined to try and make Gaius proud after he took them in, but she ended up as just another expendable cog in the Garlean war machine. It seems like there's more going on, but that's my initial take on it.

I had comparatively less sympathy for the sahagin queen.

[Baxcel]

I was more afraid we were going to have a 2nd phase in that fight where she gave birth.. when she hunched over and it zoomed in at her death I was actually scared for what was about to happen..

And with all the horror aspects we've seen so far with ShadowBringers.. I was really afraid they were going to do it too!

[Deusteele]

There is a lot more going on at Werlyt. They know what they are doing with the auracite and Weapons. Milisandia isn't a cog being forced to fight. Those kids are jumping at the chance to pilot the new Weapons. And hoping to slaughter Eorzeans. I feel bad for Gaius in this situation. Those kid though, no they're going in with eyes wide open. They get what's coming to them. Same thing as the Benethos in Anamnesis.

[Alleo]

Am I the only one who like... didn't feel any sympathy after the Ruby weapon thing?? I keep seeing that comparison in this thread but like...

if anything I'd call that even harder to feel bad about than killing the fish lady. Clearing out the Anyder was a preemptive strike, but the Ruby weapon was literally already on its way to slaughter people and actively tried to kill us lmao. No sad flashback is gonna make me feel bad for stopping the pilot of a literal murder machine from obliterating my entire face.

Fully agree with you there. With the weapon they were on their way to attack us. Its war and they were ready to kill us. Also its not our fault to what happened to her in that thing.

The queen and her people also got their chances to make peace. The ondo were willing to share and help them. They choose war instead. Of course if we had a game with choices we might have been able to keep her alive and only kill her after giving birth and give the children to the other tribe to raise. But we dont even know how far along she was and if the children would survive it.

[Crushnight]

Am I the only one who like... didn't feel any sympathy after the Ruby weapon thing?? I keep seeing that comparison in this thread but like...

if anything I'd call that even harder to feel bad about than killing the fish lady. Clearing out the Anyder was a preemptive strike, but the Ruby weapon was literally already on its way to slaughter people and actively tried to kill us lmao. No sad flashback is gonna make me feel bad for stopping the pilot of a literal murder machine from obliterating my entire face.

Nope I had 0 sympathy for anyone in the Werlyt questline due to what Gauis is like as a character (seriously he most likely raised them up to be useful tools of the empire and nothing else, Livia barely gets better as being his 'lover' and I use that loosely) and how the skirmish was caused by them they are the instigators for this conflict.

Whereas the sahagin queen we were the instigators for the conflict and half the cause for their reason for going to war. And judging how Ondo operate is near identical to sahagin on the source with regards to how the eggs are raised that being select sahagin are giving eggs to raise how they wish, meaning that it could've been possible 1 member of the Benethos that could've been gifted eggs might've been open to joining the Ondo. That however is dead along with the queen and her eggs.

Add that on top of my personal experience which is probably the biggest factor for me and yea I get uncomfortable killing her.

[Alleo]

Whereas the sahagin queen we were the instigators for the conflict and half the cause for their reason for going to war.

Its true that we did not help the conflict because of Bismark but if I remember it correctly they were already hostile towards people after the flood of light. And the Odon were trying to reach a peaceful conclusion. Its unfortunate that these eggs will be destroyed with it but we dont even know in which state those eggs were.

I can understand that it makes you uncomfortable but in the end she had it in her hand to change it.

Honestly I was more shocked about her look..then I tried to imagine the Odon queen which we helped..I really did not think that they would look like that...and why is the entrance where we gave the Odon stuff for their queen so small..