So about that new dungeon

[SannaR]

If you guys felt guilty about killing the Ondo Queen, then I don't think you're gonna like some of the Ruby Weapon cutscenes.

I mean that's a full grown adult who we only see as a kid. Did I feel bad about what happened to her yes, but we put her out of her misery. There's a difference between a person who not only tried to kill their adopted father and you getting possessed by a crazy lady and having to kill them vs killing a pregnant lady even if it means saving a bunch of lives.

[wereotter]

I found it a bit hypocritical to kill the sahagin queen because the Tempest doesn't have the resources to support more of them (and because they were going to go to war) while rewind a few months ago and I did a whole quest chain to help the queen in Ondo Cups to give birth herself... so what about the resources those fish will need?

[Alleo]

I found it a bit hypocritical to kill the sahagin queen because the Tempest doesn't have the resources to support more of them (and because they were going to go to war) while rewind a few months ago and I did a whole quest chain to help the queen in Ondo Cups to give birth herself... so what about the resources those fish will need?

Its not just about the ressources. The ondo say that they tried to talk to them but the hatred is too deep. If we dont take her out (and the scions did not like that either) then they will grow in numbers and go to war with the people. People that have done nothing wrong. So its either not kill her and later hear that they have slaughtered the Ondo and who knows how many people from the villages (including the children) or kill the queen (who also was ready to attack us and did not want to talk to us at all) and save the rest.

The scions did not like it and we also had that sad look on our face afterwards, but the harsh truth in the situation was that fighting was the only option left.

[wereotter]

Its not just about the ressources. The ondo say that they tried to talk to them but the hatred is too deep. If we dont take her out (and the scions did not like that either) then they will grow in numbers and go to war with the people. People that have done nothing wrong. So its either not kill her and later hear that they have slaughtered the Ondo and who knows how many people from the villages (including the children) or kill the queen (who also was ready to attack us and did not want to talk to us at all) and save the rest.

The scions did not like it and we also had that sad look on our face afterwards, but the harsh truth in the situation was that fighting was the only option left.

I'm aware of that issue too. I'm saying that the fact that they mentioned resources as an issue at all when you consider the quests of the Ondo tribe is a bit incongruent.

[Kidria]

I'm aware of that issue too. I'm saying that the fact that they mentioned resources as an issue at all when you consider the quests of the Ondo tribe is a bit incongruent.

I think it's more the implied bit where, if the benthos were equally kind, the Ondo would share and vice versa, instead of attempting to hoard resources for either side.

[linay]

I found it a bit hypocritical to kill the sahagin queen because the Tempest doesn't have the resources to support more of them (and because they were going to go to war) while rewind a few months ago and I did a whole quest chain to help the queen in Ondo Cups to give birth herself... so what about the resources those fish will need?

It's been a while, but I thought our friend's queen was already pregnant before the water was removed. This other queen wants to get pregnant after the water is removed when they know that resources have decreased.

[StriderShinryu]

I mean, I didn't find the dungeon particularly enjoyable or entertaining, or even all that visually impressive, but I can't say that this is a complaint that came to mind.

[XenociderOmega]

We have killed more ppl than most villains in this game

[Malmstrom]

We have killed more ppl than most villains in this game

"Woe betide the man who stands opposed to the Weapon of Light, for death will be his reward. Death for him and his kin and all that he holds dear."

[TheGrimace]

We have killed more ppl than most villains in this game

Know that I'll kill your god if I have to; maybe even if I don't.