Fix ocean fishing or add lockouts for leavers

[Pepsi_Plunge]

Yes it is possible with 2 phases, but not getting one in phase 1 reduces your chances drastically because now you really need that spectrals in 2 and 3. So it's still better for your chances to leave and take a second boat while you still can, hoping for a better outcome in phase 1.

Also many Under-80-Fisher will leave after phase 1 regardless if the spectral triggers or not. Even if the spectral triggers it's better for them to get 4 stops to make more xp in one trip instead of 3 stops. You level much faster this way.

The way it is designed it's like SE actually wants us to leave after the first stop and take a second boat. They made it, in fact, very attractive to do so.

[Eriane_Elis]

It's probably okay in Japan but in the US, people are serious griefers. I also vote that they penalize early leavers. A whole party just left moments ago. I think that if the whole party leaves then no one in that party can attempt it again for 24hrs. If it's one person, then that person gets penalized for 4hrs. If they do it again on that day, then a full day penalty. A complete disconnect (not coming back unless it was right at the end) should also count and people leaving should be listed at the end to discourage them from doing it again as they may get blacklisted. It's harsh but fair to those who want to play I think.

Edit: I also think that maybe they should add bonus seconds for everyone who leaves, that way it's more fair to those who stay and won't encourage a system of "bonus points" for those who stay since you could game the system by mass-quitting to help 1 party. So for every person that leaves, let's say add 30 seconds to the trip or whatever is considered average given the RNG nature.

[van_arn]

Simply make it so the rainbow can't possibly proc before the grace period expires.

[Avidria]

Simply make it so the rainbow can't possibly proc before the grace period expires.

Isn't the grace period 15 minutes though? They'd have to redesign how the achievements work then because that'd mean you can only realistically get a rainbow at the third stop...

Unless the grace period is different if you leave and queue again? Or I'm misunderstanding something?

[Reap00]

These forums are starting to resemble the forums of another mmo. Very sad. Outage culture is so boring.

[SuperZay]

Just FYI, a chance of proccing rainbows scales with a number of people in the instance. People leaving are not hurting your chances.

[RyuSaarva]

Just FYI, a chance of proccing rainbows scales with a number of people in the instance. People leaving are not hurting your chances.

is it fate scaling, if so it hurts a lot and you won't get bonuses either.

[SuperZay]

is it fate scaling, if so it hurts a lot and you won't get bonuses either.

It does not. I've seen many spectrals procced with just a few people on boat. And if you are solo you are almost guaranteed to have one every location. Less people hurt you only if you are full AFK.

[Kaiserdrache]

The whole design of the bost is garbage and that there are leavers is kust an obvious sign of this fail design.

SE never learns it, that it it the greatest, absolute greatest mistake to link achievements to content that is rng based and linked as well to an extreme reliance on many other people, where the chance of obtaining the wanted achievements is instantly defeated the very moment certain conditions aren't perfectly met.


In order to obtain the needed 16000 points to get the best instance related point achievement, based on you get 50% bonus requires of you to get by your own actions like 11k points, which something only skillful fishers might eventually get, if the bonus from phantom fishing in all 3 segments, was constantly,
if 50% bonus is max, i guess not, but getting better bonus requires much better group performance - that means much more reliance on other players from whose you can't know if they will be afkers, leavers, bad geared noobs that lose fishes from their lines ect, all factors that can ruin your conditions to have a serious chance at getting the 16000 points.


Then you lose due to animations also alot of time, from the like 21 minutes you have are like easily 5 minutes lost in animations in wait time between bitings, what makes reaching the needed points not easier
With all this its no miracle that achievement hunters leave the very moment their chance of it is destroyed

[snipski]

I had to leave due to raid, and ppl went bananas because i fucked up their achievment.