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  1. #1
    Player
    Cervani's Avatar
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    Kanai Hana
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90

    Fix ocean fishing or add lockouts for leavers

    This is the third run in a row that was ruined by people leaving.

    It just seems this is the new thing to do. If a rainbow doesn't pop the first hole, you have 5-6 people (or more) leave. Since it's still within the 15 minute grace period SE gives, they can requeue for a new boat with better luck.

    All this does is screw over the remaining people who are on the boat, leaving less people to try and pop rainbows and making it a bad experience overall. Something needs to be done about this. Either lower the grace period to 3 or 5 minutes, or hand out lockouts to individual characters.

    Maybe a 24h lockout from ocean fishing if you leave before a certain point, and escalating from there would stop idiots from screwing the rest of us over and wasting time.
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  2. #2
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    Liale's Avatar
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    Farewell Loveless
    World
    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    I have stuck it out on each fishing trip myself. BUT, that being said I can not blame them for leaving. Ocean fishing is so heavily RNG based that for those of us who have spent days trying to get the mount it is just an instant sense of failure when that first rainbow doesn't proc. The problem isn't so much people leaving, it's the RNG based system on an arbitrarily long wait timer that encourages them to leave or else spend another hour and thirty mins waiting for yet another chance to be disappointing.
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  3. #3
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    I agree that its awful that people are leaving (even though I can understand them..its just so annoying with that horrible RNG) but I am not sure if they can truly do something for that. If they put down a timer then people will just afk for it. And if its something long as 24 hours than you will punish people that have to leave because they have something important happen. (Which is I believe the reason why Yoshida allows them to leave in the first place)

    Maybe it would already help if we could trigger more than one spectral per place. With that not getting any at the first one might still trigger three later.
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    Avellin Adorel
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Yeah I support this. Lock them out for the next 12 or 24 hours IMO. I was in one where maybe 10 people left. My 8-man lost 3 people.
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  5. #5
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Give it the same lockout penalty as leaving a dungeon, at the least.
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  6. #6
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    Luna Sol
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I got a better idea, delete ocean fishing. It's very poorly designed. RNG stacked on top of RNG stacked on top of RNG stacked on top of RNG is not fun and being dependent on other people only makes it worse. This was poorly planned out content. We lost a dungeon for this? Terrible tradeoff.
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    Toni Romo
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    Ultros
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    Viper Lv 100
    If someone leaves they should have their FSH level dropped back to level 1.
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  8. #8
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    Destati's Avatar
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    Aoki Kha
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    Balmung
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I don't blame those people one bit for leaving. You essentially have one chance to net 10k points, if you don't reach that threshold then too bad you have to wait a few hours just to try again. SE ought to rethink the godawful RNG mechanics or do away with/shorten that 2-hour window.

    Quote Originally Posted by ToniRomo View Post
    If someone leaves they should have their FSH level dropped back to level 1.
    Also calm down there, Satan.
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  9. #9
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    Cynric Zerr
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    Sargatanas
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    I don't get it, my alt got their shark with 2 rainbows, which happened in the 2nd and 3rd window. Leaving cause you don't get rainbow immediately is kindda silly.

    That being said, its better than the person who just stood there on the boat today. Threw out their line twice, then quit and stood there scrolling threw random idle poses while I assume they went and used the bathroom and made a snack, then came back half way through the second window to continue fishing. I wanted to pick her up by the cat girl scruff and throw her overboard. Don't take up a spot if you can't or won't actually do the content.
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  10. #10
    Player
    Cervani's Avatar
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    Kanai Hana
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 90
    What it basically comes down to is they need to either do something about the complete RNG of spectral currents, or add a timer for afkers/leavers. People who say it doesn't affect anyone and they are fine for do it are missing the point of just how much it screws over the other fishers on the boats. It's no different from being in a dungeon and not getting your loot drop on the first boss, so you just leave and screw your group. Sadly, dungeon groups can refill but ocean fishing cannot.

    As the system currently stands, and based on RNG, the more fishers you have actively fishing the higher percentage chance to spawn a rainbow. When you have morons leaving because they didn't see a rainbow the first spot, those five or six people leaving cut down that percentage massively with each new person leaving to the point that it becomes impossible to spawn a rainbow with the remaining people on the boat. All this does is discourage people from even trying the content. After all, why even bother when you have elitist morons who give up at the slightest non-optimum setup.

    As was said above, you can get the mount with two rainbows and some luck. No excuse for this behavior whatsoever.
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