Dunno if I can agree with Pug = Arc damage-wise in NMs, my str with gear and traits goes up to almost 170 and I still do much less dmg than either ARC or LNC, the dmg just doesn't compare, while I'm doing 30-35 max per 2 of heavy strike or almost 45 with the 3 hits of flurry, ARC are doing like 50-60 with just normal attacks, same goes for LNC almost and the speed of attack from PGL doesn't affect it that much, and their WS do much more dmg than us. =/ True we can still do DD, but no use comparing us with say ARC... Unfornately though I guess