Delete Clemency and Vercure

[Tlamila]

If people need to use Vercure and Clemency with you so much, you're probably not as much a good healer as you think you are. All the times I wanted to use Vercure but I thought: "na, the healer will heal me, right?" I was dead short after. And luckily the healers who take offense to someone helping them are very few, they're usually thankful and when I heal I couldn't care less, healers are not some sort of emperors who need to stay on their high throne. And I'll tell you more, I also use Second Wind and Bloodbath when playing melee!! And that Manaward? And while we're at it, why don't we lso remove mitigation from tanks, how dare they reduce the incoming damage, they should just trust the healer!
Seriously, this thread is a joke.

[Fynlar]

Very insulting as healer if you see RDM or PLD use Clemency/Vercure when you have everything under control.

To which I would say, get over it.

I've had enough scary bad healers that if my health starts dipping under 30% consistently, you can freaking bet I'm gonna start casting vercure no matter how "in control" the healer thinks they are. No offense intended. It's just less of a dps loss than eating dirt on the floor.

This.

[linay]

Very insulting as healer if you see RDM or PLD use Clemency/Vercure when you have everything under control.

Unless you're in voice chat with them, they won't know if you have everything under control. As a Red Mage, I've used Vercure to help heal the tank if I've just Verraised the healer. We can't all have everything under control all the time and it's helpful tool to the team.

[NessaWyvern]

I use my Vercure for when everything is not under control, and would like to keep the ability, thanks. Often healers do not top up people in time for an incoming aoe, so the options are
1. Not vercure and let someone die (great dps loss) or
2. Vercure and suffer small dps loss.

I know which one I am doing.
A lot of the time I use it on dps who have vul. stacks though, they need more healing and some healers just won’t give it to them.

[Duskane]

I wouldn't care if they stayed or go
But Vercure does make PotD possible to solo with RDM and its decent for a dual cast proc when boss is away so it has its uses
Clemency is just more button bloat for Paladin yeah it can save a run on occasion and its nice when your healer just completely ignores divine veil so you proc it yourself but its not needed but if it went would like a sustain tool to replace it

[Deceptus]

Vercure isn't essential to red mage's identity and clemency doesn't need to be spell or a heal.

RDM's have always been about white and black magic and a healing spell (vercure) has always been a part of their skillset.

[Penthea]

Something has occurred to me.

OP made this thread about wanting to prepull mobs as a healer. Most responses clapped back saying that wasn't his job, it's the tank's job. He has conceded that the community clearly dislike when healers do this but still does not understand why.

And now he makes a thread complaining when non-healers heal.

Honestly I can't figure out if OP is somehow clueless about some things, or very good at trolling.

[Enla]

Something has occurred to me.

OP made this thread about wanting to prepull mobs as a healer. Most responses clapped back saying that wasn't his job, it's the tank's job. He has conceded that the community clearly dislike when healers do this but still does not understand why.

And now he makes a thread complaining when non-healers heal.

Honestly I can't figure out if OP is somehow clueless about some things, or very good at trolling.

My guess? He's a good troll. The best ones are the ones that blur that line between cluelessness and incredulity.

[Shaddranat]

I main PLD, my best friend mains RDM. We both get frequent use of Clemency and Vercure, both on ourselves and on others. I have personally benefited from my friend's ability to Vercure when an inexperienced/unattentive healer has gotten themselves killed - yes, I realize that as a RDM he could also have raised the dead healer, but Vercure costs less to cast.

I'm just gonna come right out and say it - like it or don't. If you are a healer and you are finding yourself insulted by someone else playing their class (because yes, a PLD using Clemency, and a RDM using Vercure IS playing their class) then you are very likely suffering from a fairly considerable emotional complex. Here's a secret, folks. Might want to keep this one to yourselves, but I feel I can trust y'all with it...

THIS IS JUST A GAME. GET OVER YOURSELF.

[Kisik]

Healers have literally nothing to do when there's no healing needs, beside dps.

There are almost no times, when healing isn't needed. A healer DPSing, is temporarily choosing to ignore the party's health concerns, in favor of contributing to the damage output, while hoping they have enough time to repair the damage taken while they were off focusing on DPS. DPS for a healer is a balancing act, not some side hobby to enjoy while no one is getting hurt.