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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
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    Look I’m not going to argue semantics with you. It’s pretty obvious from your post history you are part of the small percent of the game that focus on endgame content and speed running. You represent a percent of a percent, and I’m not going to tell you your way is wrong, because it is how you are having fun.

    I would say telling others they also have to be at peak efficiency or they are pointless is a hell of a lot more toxic than anything I have said. You are essentially arguing that my (and a large majority of casuals) play-style is wrong. “Your fun is wrong” is a crap attitude to have. Good day.
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    Player Veis_Alveare's Avatar
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    Veis Alve'are
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    crap.
    You are literally admitting forcing your playstyle on others is wrong while advocating for forcing your playstyle on others.

    As I said with that comment about an FC running maps without a healer and just using PLD/RDM heals - yes, it's cringe, but if it's how they're having fun it doesn't harm anyone.

    The difference is when you inflict something like that on other players who aren't interested in it with the added detriment of costing them some of the playtime they're paying for.

    I enjoy this game but have a social life, a full time job and other hobbies. I don't need to take a few minutes onto repetitive content that most people are just doing for the carrot at the end of the stick anyways.

    If you want to walk through Grand Cosmos and gpose, check out the scenery and enjoy the atmosphere (hey, it's pretty place!) by all means do so on your own time but if we're in a party the point is to move through the content. If you aren't going to do your best then leave and find people who want to put up with that cause it ain't me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    You are literally admitting forcing your playstyle on others is wrong while advocating for forcing your playstyle on others...
    If you aren't going to do your best then leave and find people who want to put up with that cause it ain't me
    ..I don't think you are grasping what I have been saying at all, and I'm sorry you either refuse to or can't.

    I'll quote exactly what I said:
    "If you are so worried about your roulette taking 1-2 minutes longer, you might have a deeper problem."
    "Not wiping doesn’t mean playing piss poor, it means playing the game with the skills on my bar and not stressing if I can’t get that perfect 25 step drg combo down every time."

    If you can't understand that I'm not saying "play crappy lolz", that's your issue. I'm sorry that you can't grasp that all I've been saying this entire time is "Your game play doesn't have to be perfect. There is room for suboptimal choices, and that's fun."

    There's really nothing else I can possibly add to this, so again, Good Day.
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    Kaynneth Menad
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    ..I don't think you are grasping what I have been saying at all, and I'm sorry you either refuse to or can't.

    I'll quote exactly what I said:
    "If you are so worried about your roulette taking 1-2 minutes longer, you might have a deeper problem."
    "Not wiping doesn’t mean playing piss poor, it means playing the game with the skills on my bar and not stressing if I can’t get that perfect 25 step drg combo down every time."

    If you can't understand that I'm not saying "play crappy lolz", that's your issue. I'm sorry that you can't grasp that all I've been saying this entire time is "Your game play doesn't have to be perfect. There is room for suboptimal choices, and that's fun."

    There's really nothing else I can possibly add to this, so again, Good Day.
    What you said was “I have no qualms about wasting other people’s time for the sake of my own fun and equate spending a couple of hours working to improve my gameplay until I gain the muscle memory to allow things to go back to being as effortless as they were before, to long grueling hours of suffering that will make me want to stop playing.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    What you said was “I have no qualms about wasting other people’s time for the sake of my own fun and equate spending a couple of hours working to improve my gameplay until I gain the muscle memory to allow things to go back to being as effortless as they were before, to long grueling hours of suffering that will make me want to stop playing.”
    Did I, now?
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