Delete Clemency and Vercure

[SamRF]

In other topic You want to delete glamours , and now this , good job champ- clap clap -

How does a client-side option to hide glamours relate in any way to this thread

[tdb]

How does a client-side option to hide glamours relate in any way to this thread

It does give a self-centered vibe, even if such an option wouldn't directly affect other players (but it could indirectly if you took screenshots and posted them; a lot of the time the default appearance is a horrible mishmash of different sets). You seem very intent on having control over how others play and appear to you.

[DumdogsWorld]

It does give a self-centered vibe, even if such an option wouldn't directly affect other players (but it could indirectly if you took screenshots and posted them; a lot of the time the default appearance is a horrible mishmash of different sets). You seem very intent on having control over how others play and appear to you.

He was being rhetorical - the threads have nothing to do with one another.

If you want to debate against this thread's point, the best thing to do is argue against points made in this thread, not other ones.

[Missbone]

@Topic Delete yourself plz, thanks
If you don't like how this game is designed than play something else.

[ReiMakoto]

Just because the skills arn't optimal to use most of the time doesn't mean they don't have uses. Clemency and Vercure were invaluable in side content like deep dungeons and POTD, so you effectively gimp those jobs in that content going forward by removing it. Spells like vercure are also fun for messing around, me and some friends like to do ex roulletes with unorthadox job comps for a laugh, and 4rdms can clear ex dungeons in good time thanks to vercure

[Novae]

As a healer main, I really don't care if a PLD or a RDM want to play with their toys. When I leveled my PLD to 80, I had to use clemency a lot because some healers couldn't keep up with big pulls. And I know when a healer can't keep up. So I can't blame another PLD for their use of clemency if they have experienced similar difficulties.
Being a healer doesn't mean you have to feel like a special snowflake. Some healers are so precious, it's ridiculous.

[Ivellior]

From the post, I guess your problem is with pugs (pick up groups) and not pre-made groups where you play with friends.

When you play in pug you have no idea if the healer is actually any good or not. If the tank for example sees his life falling and you are just sitting back spamming holy or whatever it's only natural to cast to cast healing.

You might feel that you have it under control (because you want to cast benediction or whatever) but the person taking the damage doesn't know that. For all he knows you might as well be spamming attack and forgot about healing.

For every good healer that "has everything under control" there are 10 that do not. If you don't want them to cast healing spells just keep their life relatively high (for example around 75%-80%).

[Cithaerias_pyropina]

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Sure SamRF, as long as you continuously heal me when I don't move out of AoEs to do my RDM combo. Gotta keep my DPS rolling and keep healers on their toes somehow

You get upset at things so easily, it's kind of fun to wake up to your threads/posts and read them. Keep it up, I'd hate to lose these kinds of things from you

[Seraphor]

These are both very useful for self sustain in solo situations, or when the healer actually IS struggling (it happens).

You could just as easily say it's patronising when a Tank blows every single cooldown on one trash pack, or when the Healers Rescues you out of an AoE when you were planning to use your invulnerability.

In addition, they each have their unique uses. Clemency can trigger Divine Veil, and Vercure can be used to proc Dualcast when there's nothing to target.

[Bright-Flower]

These are both very useful for self sustain in solo situations, or when the healer actually IS struggling (it happens).

You could just as easily say it's patronising when a Tank blows every single cooldown on one trash pack, or when the Healers Rescues you out of an AoE when you were planning to use your invulnerability.

In addition, they each have their unique uses. Clemency can trigger Divine Veil, and Vercure can be used to proc Dualcast when there's nothing to target.

This.

Spamming clemency on yourself while tanking is generally just a waste of dps, but there are times it's very useful. Helping to keep things going when the healer(s) are down, procing divine veil, etc. Not to mention just being nice for solo stuff. Or deep dungeon runs where you don't get a healer.