Quote Originally Posted by SamRF View Post
Efficiency. (don't take this out of context please, consider the full post I'm responding to)

They shouldn't feel uncomfortable in the first place, if they do, I would argue that they have bad/unfair judgement (which is okay) and need to work on that. I hear many say that they encounter healers that do let them die. In that case, unless it's obvious that healer won't be able to heal you (hard cast rez, dead, ..) you should trust your healer. If it did lead to party being wiped, then by all means do use Vercure/Cemency next time for insurance.

There might be an exception for Paladins in some (specific lower level) dungeons when either healer or tank isn't up to par with their gear and they overpull. Then it could perhaps be a good idea to throw a few clemencies when you don't have any defense buffs going on while taking enormous amount of damage. But it should never be as a respond to how much health you have because you can't predict that with the cast time. A response to how much damage you are taking can be debatable, a response to how much health you have is imo always bad practice in group content for PLD (except for those exceptional cases you know healer is unable to heal).
I wouldnt say they have bad/unfair judgment - I dare say that they've simply encountered to many healers who are struggling and are now careful.

Before this patch I took a bit of a hiatus from DF, but now with new tomes and a new NM raid I'm dipping my toes back in - granted, all of this is now first week experience, but so far I've seen the following healers:
- dead for 50% of E5-8
- unable to deal with mechanics and healing tanks at the same time (which resulted in a dead tank in E7NM - who died from autoattacks and took no additional damage they shouldnt have taken. With an ilvl of 472 and CDs up. The mechanic was "run to one side" - which can be paired with an instant heal)
- letting the tank die to a mitigated tankbuster from a dungeonboss

Any person you encounter through DF is a stranger, so why should I just trust them straight away? Obviously one should go in with the expectation that everyone in there is capable of doing their job - but trust? Nope, thats something you gotta earn. And you might be burdend by me encountering several healers before you who worked very hard not to earn any amount of trust.